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| The size of the centres is irrelevant. Support is the issue.
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| Be sure to read the locked thread on "Two Crowds" in association with this one for full coherence.
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| We have done.
Okay, i'd love you to be right but in this instance: you're not.
We'll see come february anyway, it would be awesome to beat 50k; it just isnt going to happen.
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| Not with the thinking demonstrated here. No doubt mirrored at the RFL.
Probably not.
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| You have all regressed to 1984-85 thinking somehow...
Time machine anyone?
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| Quote ="Dico"No its not
That would make it nearly the size of Manchester! Wigans smaller than Warrington and the only way you could say its anywhere near that figure is if you started including borough places like Skelmersdale which are about as 'Wigan' as Warrington is Chester. If we're talking boroughs and outskirts then Leeds is still about 6 times bigger anyway. Now lets not get daft.'"
Skelmersdale isn't in Wigan borough. Wigan MBC is made up of Wigan itself, Leigh, Atherton, Tyldesley, Hindley, parts of Ashton-in-Makerfield and then rural Standish etc. Bar Leigh, Atherton & Tyldesley, they are all Wigan strongholds (and, sadly, even then there are plenty of crust munchers on our side of the borough), so I reckon it's pretty relevant.
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| Not really. Those three towns alone add up to over a hundred thousand people I bet so theres a third of your population gone already. Wigan isnt a big enough town to draw thousands upon thousands of neutral bypassers in like Leeds, which if we're talking boroughs is MASSIVE. Thats where I was drawing the comparison between Leeds getting 37,000 for their first sucess in donkeys and Wigan somehow expected to get 50,000 in the same scenario. Call upon the neutral support all you like but its like 1 in every 4 people in a town having to attend.. never going to happen
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| You've gone back to the Wigan only fans thing.
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| Im a Warrington fan and ill be there if the pricings right.
But you ask the majority of saints wire widnes leigh et al fans to attend? no chance kid, no chance ESPECIALLY if you hire old trafford and charge £25+ a ticket
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| Glad to hear it... I guessed as much from your location.
The key is the neutral rugby league fan and mobilising them. Not the size of Wigan's support alone.
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| I've got to agree with Dico on this one, I simply don't see where these thousands of neutrals are going to come from to watch Wigan.
Leeds' average crowd in 2004 was roughly similar to Wigan's this season. The 2005 WCC got a crowd of 37,208 with large marketing efforts and with a large corporate effort from Leeds on the back of Leeds first championship for 30 odd years and in a flourishing economy. Where are the extra 20,000 people going to come from to support Wigan?
It's not a question of thinking big, it's a question of thinking realistically. Wembley or OT would be embarrassing for the sport since even 50K in those grounds look bad. In this context holding it at Anfield and getting close to filling it IS thinking big. I would be amazed if the crowd was well over 30,000.
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| they got well over 30,000 for the manly game at central park.so that figure is achievable again
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| Quote ="manly4ever"they got well over 30,000 for the manly game at central park.so that figure is achievable again'"
That was over 20 years ago, that season Wigan also got over 30,000 for a tour match v Australia and GB got over 50,000 v Australia. Things have changed, people watch the game in a different way hence relatively good regular SL crowds but relatively poor Challenge Cup and Playoff crowds.
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| As it is, I think Wigan have earned the right to play it at their home ground if the Aussies don't want to play ball, and I don't see any reason why it can't be close to a sell-out. I know it's not a patch on the Old Trafford & Wembley ideas, but they were never really going to work anyway.
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| Quote ="Dico"Im a Warrington fan and ill be there if the pricings right.
But you ask the majority of saints wire widnes leigh et al fans to attend? no chance kid, no chance ESPECIALLY if you hire old trafford and charge £25+ a ticket'"
I'll be there, i'm a Leigh fan. But as a Rugby League fan, this will be a game not to miss.
Is there any way Wiggin could sell out the 25k, then if they need to sell any more ticket, put up temporary stands in the corners to get the capacity up?
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| Quote ="CGD"Until next year when you change teams or maybe sports again.'"
mate winners are grinners.
thanks for mick weyman, we wouldnt have won the title without him.
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| Quote ="BigRob"That was over 20 years ago, that season Wigan also got over 30,000 for a tour match v Australia and GB got over 50,000 v Australia. Things have changed, people watch the game in a different way hence relatively good regular SL crowds but relatively poor Challenge Cup and Playoff crowds.'"
he's right you know
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"he's right you know'"
Barry, are you Albert Rosenfield?
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Barry, are you Albert Rosenfield?
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No.
I'm far better looking
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"No.
I'm far better looking'"
lol that must be bad then..........
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| Seems a few Dragons supporter's are heading over. Hopefully keeping the seat warm for Manly supporter's
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| there is no way to acheive a crowd of 50,000 plus thats pie in the sky,the actual population of the town of wigan is around 90,000 according to wikipedia,the manly game in 87 was the first of its kind and caught the whole of the rugby leauge supporting communitys imagination,the game should be at the dw stadium and a full house would be attracted,the only alternative i can see in the local area is holding it at goodison with a capacity of around 38,000 but even this is optomistic.
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| Go for Anfield and some neutrals will come! There just wont be 20,000 of them
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| Anfield. Get St Helens fans to get on board to support St George Illawarra Dragons. Get Wigan fans hyped up for an England vs Aus clash, Wigan vs St Helens clash and Wigan vs St George Illawarra Dragons clash.
If you can't get up for that then you really aren't a proper Saints or Wigan fan.
DW too small, aim to fill Anfield, a stadium that Wigan have won the World Club Challenge in before. (yet another angle)
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| Thinks its odds on that it be at Reebok.
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