If the roles are reversed, this forum will have been full of "Radford was trying free himself, Bailey was holding down, Radford was wriggling to get a quick PTB." I'm convinced that there are people on here who fire up their PC's during any Leeds televised game specifically to start a thread on Ryan Bailey.

That's not a defence of what Bailey might or might not do, more a commentary of the prevailing opinion on here. It used to be Barrie McDermott or Terry Newton, although neither of them got the sort of attention on here that Bailey does despite, on occasion, being far worse in the "thuggish" stakes. Coincidently, Bailey has served less time in suspensions that either of those players.

Lee Radford should not have taken the bait, pure and simple.

That is your interpretation of what happened.

It can very easily be argued that all Bailey was attempting to do was regain his feet in order to play the ball. This happens in every game in a similar style. Yes, his arm connected with the head but can you say this was deliberate with evidence to back up what this accusation - No you cannot because no evidence is present.

What further action will occur - a letter asking him to remain perfectly still until all defenders are well away from him and the defensive line is set before attempting to play the ball and possibly a fine.

The only thing that video evidence conclusively shows is a pretense of a head butt for which the fine would be for.

If you get the chance go back a couple of tackles. Delaney does exactly the same thing, wildly throws the elbow down, in that case to turn himself over and regain his feet. Bailey must have known Radford was there and didn't actually need to thrash around with his elbow to right himself. Radford had no-where to go and took 2 or three to the head. Penalty to Hull. No further punishment required.

Radford took the blows as an unprovoked attack and punched to the head. He couldn't of known that he was, potentially, mistaken (I say mistaken because I don't want to even know what Bailey was thinking). He should have known not to retaliate, he's been around long enough after all. Yellow Card for Radford for a heat of the moment thing to settle the heads down a bit.

Baileys response in trying to get Long, who was doing beggar all, deserved a Yellow as well. Leeds knew that or they wouldn't have kept him off after he was cleaned up. to cool him down. Like a lot of players in his position he's a liability and will be tagged, correctly in my opinion, a thug. He's a brighter thug than he's given credit for is all.

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Nothing racist there at all.

Well thats utter rubbish if it was ever written and you know it (unless you too are ignorant of the laws of the game).

In order to clean up Bailey and see to a wound of that extent a substitution had to be made. If they were going to send him back onto the pitch, they would have to make another substitution.

Only a fool would use another substitution to send him back onto the pitch and not let his replacement do some work

So which is it - are you a fool or ignorant of the laws of the game?

wrong to start with. the penalty was for leeds for radford laying on. had he rolled away nothing would have happened

Neither, the player who had substituted was subsequently substituted, but not by Bailey. So Bailey was indirectly substituted.

I was one of the few people in my area of the stadium who identified why Bailey was off in the first place.

Ryan Bailey, Ryan Bailey
No one likes you
No one likes you
They all hate you
They all hate you
Ryan Bailey, Ryan Bailey

Newton's disciplinary record was also pretty good IIRC until late in his career he finally got what he deserved.

In fact, did he ever pick up a red card in top flight RL? (genuine question, I don't know the answer)

but he didn't keep his head down for the rest of the game. i suggest you watch it again

For those claiming racism, last season Hull FC fans voted Mark Calderwood for our player of the season. Last time I checked, he's black too.

I'd hope that the headbutt attempt gets noticed when the dc review the game footage.

Radford should have been sent to the bin and so should Bailey.

This is Rugby League not tiddlywinks, a bit of biff spices the game up, after their ten mins were up seeing them go at each other for the rest of the game would have been worth the ticket price alone.

On a side note Bailey deserved it, he shouldn't have been elbowing Radford plus he is a class 1 gobe.

Honestly, how can people actually compare Bailey hitting Radford on the top of his head with the inside of his arm to Radford getting up and winging him 4 times as he laid on the floor?!
If every player reacted like that to a tackled player tried to shake out of the tackle, there would be 100 fights a game!
Also most people seem to be forgetting that as Radford was sent off he stayed on the pitch offering Bailey out!
Bailey should have probably been binned for trying to continue the fight as well but saying Radford's wasn't a red card is preposterous!

Bailey = foul play = penalty
Radford = violent conduct = off

simples

Since when has elbowing somebody in the head been an acceptable response to being tackled ?

It wasn't the ' inside of his arm ' , it was his elbow

It wasn't an elbow to the head. It was a cuffing to the elbow's punch.
Every player in the league flaps about similarly to Bailey did, it doesn't give the player tackling them the right to get up and lay in to them as they lay defenceless on the floor!

Spot on post! Radford was quite rightly sent off, i mean if you don't think that was a sending off, what exactly have you got to do?
Having said that, i enjoyed every bit of seeing somebody smacking the hell out of bailey. Hopefully we'll seem him do the same to Cockayne next week.

Elbowing is obviously part of the game now, like when Tomkins dropped on Myler with the elbow ages after Myler scored.

Then he should have been punished for it

Would bet £10 that Bailey started gobbing off as soon as there was space betweem him and Radford, and he knew that nothing could happen in retaliation.

well considering it should have only been 10 minutes, i look forward to Bailey knocking 7 shades out of Tomkins next week, swinging four unanswered punches whilst Tomkins is defenceless on the floor, it would likely take Tomkins out of the game, Bailey takes ten minutes........Jackpot

Then in the GF we can see Kylie swing four punches at a prone Leon Pryce, take him out of the game, lose Kylie for 10minutes and we can say hello to 4 in a row............

after all any other response would be totally over the top apparently

Given the way Leeds play the game , both those scenario's are quite likely to happen

Bailey - sin bin / 1 match ban
Radford - red card / Sending off sufficent

Penalty to Hull, Bailey the first offender

indeed the fact they are so good means Leon Pryce is likely to go missing and 4 in a row is likely to happen

The only shame was, Radford didnt get more punches in to justify the lengthly ban he is going to recieve. Chuck the 2 in a boxing ring somewhere, And let him batter him again.