Quote ="Spongolium"I asked for first team players, not players that have played 20 minutes off the bench in a call up. God you heartlands teams love doing that. Ah yes, Johnny from down the road played the last 10 minutes of game 2 in the season. Bringing through the youngsters see, it's a bit of a farce really.
Welsh Players, playing in the crusaders this season.
Elliot Kear - played early in the season, looks to be a lock next year.
Ben Flower - played in a number of games this year
Gareth Thomas - played most of the season before injury
Lloyd White - first call up in injury to half backs
Luke Dyer - played all season
Jordan James - played all season
Anthony Blackwood - Now transferred
Rhys Hanbury - Will be Qualified as welsh
English Players playing for the crusaders this season.
Tommy Lee - played in every game he was able too
Jamie Thackary - same as above
Peter Lupton - played in every game this year
The crusaders, for what everyone says, are not full of aussies. Yes we have a large majority of australian players, because we need them. The scorpions are 99% welsh, and made the play-offs this year. Couple of them look very promising for up and coming years.
We have yet to name any signings, but it looks like stuart reardon is on his way.
and fan of st helens. Are you blind?'"
2 of the cas players listed have over 150 appearances (huby and shenton)
Westerman has played more than a 100 games.
Owen who wasnt playing last night has made 72 appearances after missing most of the seasons through injury.
thompson has played 15 games this year after playing twice last year.
walker played 7 games this year (debut season)
arundel played 8 after one game before this season.
milner played 4 games this year after making his debut in the back end of the season.
Holmes played 4 games this season playing in castlefords strongest position in his debut season.
massey played 2 games but has missed most of the season through injury.
davies played 1 game but again missed a big chunk of the season through injury and was behind holmes in the pecking order.
so to summarise shenton, huby and owen played in every game they were fit to play in.
thomspon played in more than 50% of the games this season
arundel and walker played in about 25% of the games this season.
milner played in 3 of the 6 games since making his debut,
holmes played 4 games in a position we aready have snitch, jones, widders, westerman, davies, clayton and ferres to play in.
Dyer and hanbury arent welsh by the way.
As i said on another thread i have nothing against crusaders just adressing the points you have made in this post.