Indeed, this is what is meant by tactics... changing your play based on the strength of the opposition

If you see a strong kick return game in the opposition then the long kick dead so you can set your defence on the 20m is the right way forward

If you see a weakness in the kick return, better to chase well, keep the opposition penned into their own 5/10m and tire their forwards out

As a tactic, it is smart - as a spectacle for the fans, not so much

As I say, I would favour a rule change to a scrum back from the point of the kick (but not till after the 4 Nations!)

Haven't quins been doing this for years? Im not taking the p1$$ dally but this is stuff any ten year old knows.
Bloody boring, tap on the 30 it should be.
I also think any ball diffused ingoal should be a tap. Im sick of seeing so many tries coming from the same kicks, you could still score from them but your kicking would have to be much better

oh when we did we kicked the bull dead on the full

indeed the kick passed the dead ball line by 10 m.

when you kick it along the ground the defence might stop it

with a punt over there heads which doesnt land in the field of play they have no chance

Interesting how Roy Masters agrees with me and not dickless...

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -skfd.html Prescient or what?

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -skfd.html Prescient or what?

Did you notice the word 'return'? No? Didn't think so.
The rest of the article backs up absolutely everything i've said before and that's just the NRL, not discounting SL.
Now go and behave

Did he? Are you sure? Or do you mean "He's the first person I'm aware of that used this idea"? Not the same thing at all, and I'm damn sure I've seen it often enough in the past.

You've got a DIY Teach Yourself RL book there haven't you Dally? Problem is, most of us don't actually need the book, have no need to try and make ourselves look good by quoting from such a volume, and aren't getting laughed at for stating the blindingly obvious.

Perhaps you should have titled this thread 'RL 101"

hey watching the nrl you pick these things up.

its why our coaches use SL as a training run.

i asked people to contribute their knowledge

i got a donught back

re. kicking the ball dead, bennetts tactic was to kick the ball out on the full.

It depends on your field position, if you use that tactic the chances are you're playmakers think you're too far out for an attacking play including a dg. It's especially useful when you've got a limited team like Quins, because deliberately kicking it dead and making them return from the 20 against a set defence is better than trying something clever and giving them either a broken field to return to or a scrum where half your better defenders are out of the line when the ball comes out. Quins used this tactic quite a lot last season with some good results, although there was some whiney cretin sat behind me at the time who couldn't understand that it wasn't a mistake, an annoyance not helped by his friends who appeared to agree with his startling lack of understanding, I sometimes felt like turning round, belting him and saying "look you whiney cretin, we're a rubbish side and this is a good tactic for us to negate the superior attacking capability of our opponents". We haven't done it so much this year, instead we've done weaker kicks and often had the ball returned to us on the 40 or even halfway, there's times when I'd have killed for one of our non-organisers to kick the ball dead and at least take the return from the 20.

Yes, Tony Rea thought it was a good tactic and used it a lot. I only wish we'd been doing it more this season, especially as I moved seats and the whiney cretin doesn't sit behind me any longer.

You really believe this stuff too, don't you.

Bless.

Where's the "pats head" smiley gone?

thanks for your addition to the thread.

youve added a lot

sit back and leave this to the grown ups

Dickless loses...

Who woulda thunk it?





Just because you have no clue, don't try and infect everyone else with it.

Roy Masters agrees this man has no dick...

I hope a side I coach gets to play a side you coach if your standard sets are so damn predictable. And splitting the halves is an option, not a statement of fact.

We used this tactic last year to beat Hull FC at home. It was the first home game after we had spanked Wire and it was a pretty wet and windy day.Perfect tactics from the coach...they played the conditions and kept turning the FC pack around. It's nothing new, as you say TR used it a fair few times as well.

im not a coach, have never coached a team

the stuff im talking about is from watching the game, reading Big League magazine!

thanks anyway

the whole idea of the thread is so people can know that its more than 5 drives and a kick!

Never

No Col ......I believe him when he says he's never coached ....... I believe him when he says he gets his ideas fed to him by tv commentators and a magazine......although you're probably right with your "never" in relation to him having a "whole idea".

Whooosh...

Fair enough. And, although I wouldn't necessarily coach everything you've posted, I think what you're doing is useful (despite the protests from the hoi polloi)

Cheers
W71

thanks, its nice to get some positive feedback on this thread!

Why don't you talk about some of the finer points of the game, as opposed to stuff, as I said before, everyone knew at 10 years old. You might as well be playing U11s if the best you can come up with is '3 settler tackles'.
Why not discuss how different teams use these 3 tackles to open up different channels in defence; Saints do a remarkable job of doing this in a 10-15 metre channel, crossing the ptb line and cutting a runner inside at the markers or the first outside runner who are force defenders to make 2 or 3 tackles running every time. Warrington on the other hand favour hitting defenders 2/3 moving across a large portion of the middle.
If you're being dominated in defence the Saints tactics can soon see you eat up your tackles whereas Warrington I feel hit outside runners too early very often however Smith seems to like moving the defence around. On the flip side, Saints for years have success with their strategy with KC, people like Roby, creating a broken field and feeding a great broken field runner like Pryce.
How about the NRL?

You didn't know about the importance of the scrum as a basis for moves at 10 years old or any other age for that matter...

Roy Masters seems to have a clue though.

I really hoped you would have been dealt with by now.........such a shame TB didn't do the decent thing. You bring nothing to these boards.....god you are tedious