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| Quote ="spooneryork"icon_sad.gif I won't be feathering greedy Edinborough Hoteliers or the Scottish RU's nest, No thank you! The magic weekend should be held at Sheffield, Liverpool or Newcastle, it's pointless having it in Scotland. At least when it was in Cardiff there is a thriving RL scene nearby and good local interest.'"
Once again, which stadiums would allow 6/7 games over two days on one pitch at the business end of the footy season? I'll give you a clue, none.
As for Sheffield and Liverpool (even Newcastle) none have the number of hotel rooms and event like this needs, nor do they have a tourist board willing to hand over a large wad of cash.
Until you sort out those two basics you have no point.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Once again, which stadiums would allow 6/7 games over two days on one pitch at the business end of the footy season? I'll give you a clue, none.'"
Home park in Plymouth cos there certainly ain't any football being played there!
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Once again, which stadiums would allow 6/7 games over two days on one pitch at the business end of the footy season? I'll give you a clue, none.
As for Sheffield and Liverpool (even Newcastle) none have the number of hotel rooms and event like this needs, nor do they have a tourist board willing to hand over a large wad of cash.
Until you sort out those two basics you have no point.'"
UTTER RUBBISH, Sheffield has hosted some massive major sporting events, World Student games, World Athletics events, Newcastle has hosted the Tall ships, Music festivals, it's a huge short break destination, and the Tourist Board are excellent, also like sheffield it's used to having large Sporting crowds in town. The Rail links to both are excellent.
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I'm not been ripped off by greedy hoteliers or lining the RFU's pockets, I will go to the Double Header in London in July when it's The Skolars v York RL, and Quins v Leeds. Yes it's at The Stoop, but least I'm supporting RL in London, Train Fare = £25, Hotel = £35 Sorted! Stick the Magic weekend up your !
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I'm not been ripped off by greedy hoteliers or lining the RFU's pockets, I will go to the Double Header in London in July when it's The Skolars v York RL, and Quins v Leeds. Yes it's at The Stoop, but least I'm supporting RL in London, Train Fare = £25, Hotel = £35 Sorted! Stick the Magic weekend up your !
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| It should of been kept in Cardiff, it would of really taken off!
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| Quote ="spooneryork"UTTER RUBBISH, Sheffield has hosted some massive major sporting events, World Student games, World Athletics events, Newcastle has hosted the Tall ships, Music festivals, it's a huge short break destination, and the Tourist Board are excellent, also like sheffield it's used to having large Sporting crowds in town. The Rail links to both are excellent.'"
And where was the athletes village for the World Student Games? And how far back do you want to go? Newcastle doesn't have the hotel rooms for a two day event like this either, if Cardiff can't cope then there are few cities who can.
But all of that is small change until you answer the two key points, what stadium will host 6 or 7 games over two days and what tourist board has a large budget to hand over to us?
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| judging by the amount of tickets sold I think all the supporters could fit in one hotel anyway.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"And where was the athletes village for the World Student Games? And how far back do you want to go? Newcastle doesn't have the hotel rooms for a two day event like this either, if Cardiff can't cope then there are few cities who can.
But all of that is small change until you answer the two key points, what stadium will host 6 or 7 games over two days and what tourist board has a large budget to hand over to us?'"
Your'e missing the Point, if the event was held somewhere that is easy for most people to get to and from in a day, many fans would pick a specific day to go on, and give it a try, not everyone stays overnight but by holding it in places that are quite far flung you are forcing them to which is why so many fans don't go, because of the extra costs incurred. You are asking too much of Fans to pay for another overnight stay on top of trips to France and the Challenge Cup Final.
As for the World student games, the families and speccies didn't stay in the althletes village. I'm guessing a high percentage of RL fans attending the Magic weekend will be from the North of England, which is why the idea of Sheffield, Liverpool or Newcastle as a venue is ideal, change the date of the magic weekend so it's just after the football season has finished and straight away the stadium issue is simpler? All these venues are still easy to get to and from in a day from London.
Regarding tourist boards supporting the event the concensus from people posting on here is that the Edinborough Tourist board has done very little at all to publicise the event.
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| Wasn't the whole point if the magic weekend to increase the interest in rl in what are traditionally non rl areas? Hence Cardiff which has spawned 2 pro welsh teams and a great uptake amongst players and the performance of Wales in the euro cup.
I agree jockland is a bad move and think it should be cycled in a different city each year like the suprbowl. Southampton or Portsmouth are possible both big grounds with low div teams who can't fill them. Birmingham, Cardiff, Plymouth Ipswich etc
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Wasn't the whole point if the magic weekend to increase the interest in rl in what are traditionally non rl areas? '"
No, it was devised to give Cardiff an event to replace the CC final (along with all the footy stuff) when it moved back to Wembley. There was no expansion agenda when it was started.
Quote ="chubbs1981" it should be cycled in a different city each year like the suprbowl. Southampton or Portsmouth are possible both big grounds with low div teams who can't fill them. Birmingham, Cardiff, Plymouth Ipswich etc'"
You are still falling into the trap of thinking football clubs want this kind of business at this time of year.
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| Then hold it at the end of may after fooseball has finished
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| Quote ="spooneryork"Your'e missing the Point, if the event was held somewhere that is easy for most people to get to and from in a day, many fans would pick a specific day to go on.'"
No, you are missing the point, the tourist board pays a large amount of cash to have their hotels full and the tourist economy boosted, if that doesn't happen the large amount of cash isn't on the table.
Quote ="spooneryork"All these venues are still easy to get to and from in a day from London.'"
And how many of these venues would want that many games played in two days? The only venue that would take it would be Don Valley which apart from shocking public transport links has a full running track around the pitch which tends to upset your average RL fan. Dunno what London has to do with it though...
Quote ="spooneryork"Regarding tourist boards supporting the event the concensus from people posting on here is that the Edinborough Tourist board has done very little at all to publicise the event.'"
They pay the RFL a large chunk of cash to have the event in the city, that is the extent of their obligations, it is down to the SRL and the RFL to publisise the event.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Then hold it at the end of may after fooseball has finished'"
You mean when groundstaff are getting the pitch ready for the next season and repairing it from the one just gone, Broncos had to have 6 weeks on the road to let the pitch recover when they played at Griffin Park.
You think a club like Newcastle needs the business? Birmingham? Arsenal? Seven games of RL in two days would kill a footy pitch if it was a wet weekend.
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| No your right nobody needs it lets just pull the plug on everything and play sl games down the council pitches! Why bother putting it on sky the earn far to much do u think they need the business?
Any other pathetic excuses you fancy typing?
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"No your right nobody needs it lets just pull the plug on everything and play sl games down the council pitches! Why bother putting it on sky the earn far to much do u think they need the business?
Any other pathetic excuses you fancy typing?'"
WTF, if you can't handle some simple facts you are in the wrong place.
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| I saw very little fact. only some unreferenced numbers and an oppinion about the financial state of some premier league fooseball clubs
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"I saw very little fact. only some unreferenced numbers and an oppinion about the financial state of some premier league fooseball clubs'"
And I saw very little reasoning beyond picking cities out of thin air, I've given two very good reasons why the RFL is limited to where they can take this and apart from some teddy chucking you've not countered them.
Most of the reasons a football club would host it isn't financial, it is to do with the pitch taking a battering. I know (as it has been reported in paper local) that Newcastle aren't considering hosting any concerts or other events on the pitch for the next few years and Arsenal fans were not happy about two gigs being staged there last year.
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| Paris next year for me. Plucked out of thin air. Expansion, hotels, a great city. meets all the criteria.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Paris next year for me. Plucked out of thin air. Expansion, hotels, a great city. meets all the criteria.'"
What stadium?
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| When will the RFL learn people haven't got unlimited funds, The Challenge Cup is the main weekend away for people, then many people take a trip away to France when their team plays Le Cats, it's just too much to ask people to fork out for another very expensive weekend away, particularly in this dire economic climate we are in. that's why as I have suggested earlier if the weekend was held in say Liverpool, Newcastle or Sheffield most people could go on one of the days and enjoy a nice day out without the extra costs of staying overnight.
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| I bloody love these magic weekends . They're a great weekend away. I've never heard anyone who has been say they haven't thought it was great value for money or a really enjoyable weekend. This weekend is a massive highlight in the season for me. Ive been to every one so far and see no reason why i wont keep going in the future.
I know in advance that this weekend is coming up so i save to go to it. £30 for a 2 day match ticket then accom, its not that much at all??
(Giants fans should all go as thats the only way we get to see our team. We've not been sky once since it started and only available if you have red button this year, Sponsors wont be happy!!)
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| I can see the attraction of the BIG weekend away, but many fans including myself already go to London every year for the weekend for the Challenge Cup. I do take on board what you are saying about all the fans being in a relatively small City Centre and the great atmosphere, but Two BIG weekends away is a lot to ask financially given the dire straits the country is in debt wise with many people looking at a pay cut, pay freeze, redundancy and short hours, and that's not including going to France which certainly ain't cheap!
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Paris next year for me. Plucked out of thin air. Expansion, hotels, a great city. meets all the criteria.'"
Including the one of giving us £500k?
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"(Giants fans should all go as thats the only way we get to see our team. We've not been sky once since it started and only available if you have red button this year, Sponsors wont be happy!!)'"
Minibus then?
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Wasn't the whole point if the magic weekend to increase the interest in rl in what are traditionally non rl areas? Hence Cardiff which has spawned 2 pro welsh teams and a great uptake amongst players and the performance of Wales in the euro cup.
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The whole point of the original Millennium Magic was the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff and the South Wales Tourist board realising that with Wembley reopening they were losing the FA Cup Final, Football League Playoffs and RL Challenge Cup final and wanting some big event to replace it: hence they approached the RFL and said: "if we give you half a million, will you bring an event to the Millennium Stadium". The point of the (non-Millennium) Magic Weekend is the Edinburgh equivalents taking a look at Cardiff and making a better offer (helped by the fact that the RFL felt the WRU, stadium and tourist board weren't doing enough to publicise the Cardiff event, coupled with complaints about the way hotels were hiking up prices).
So it's purpose is three-fold:
1) to bring much-needed cash into the game
2) to raise the profile of the sport by having a whole round of fixtures on TV (and to a lesser extent by taking a whole round of fixtures 'one the road')
3) to build a 'festival' of top-flight rugby league and provide another 'event' weekend for fans (alongside the Cup Final and Grand Final) where every SL fan gets a chance to see their team taking part.
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