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| Quote ="tad rhino"he is garbage'"
Well every time I've seen him he has done well, we'll have to agree to disagree.
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| Quote ="Bully Vard"[url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HULL-KR-Galea-believes-ref-let-Hull-hook/article-1967525-detail/article.htmlGalea blames Silverwood[/url
What a knob!'"
Galea was garbage yesterday, in fact the only time I noticed him was when Craig Hall sat him on his and then he lost the ball.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"the truth hurts! (but not as much as a derby loss
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It's come to something when a player starts bleating to the press about a referee's handling of two opposition players.
Galea should learn to play his game on the pitch, not in the local rag the following day.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"I was surprised it didn't kick-off more than it did. He did make a couple of schoolboy errors and bringing HFC back 60 yards for the penalty- what was that all about?'"
He could have played advantage but Hull were a man down as Tansey was getting treatment (and Fitz was chasing Newton around CP) - Supposing from the PTB following Whiting getting tackled Rovers had intercepted and gone 80 yards under the sticks due to Hull having no full back......
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| Quote ="BuryMyHeartAtDodgyKnee"He could have played advantage but Hull were a man down as Tansey was getting treatment (and Fitz was chasing Newton around CP) - Supposing from the PTB following Whiting getting tackled Rovers had intercepted and gone 80 yards under the sticks due to Hull having no full back......'"
There's also this bit from The Laws of the Game:
[size=150Unless otherwise stated, the mark is where the offence occurs.[/size
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| Quote ="cod'ead"There's also this bit from The Laws of the Game:
[size=150Unless otherwise stated, the mark is where the offence occurs.[/size'"
Dave, you have been an official in days gone by. If you had the option of the "on report" facility which officials now have in the incident with Newton / Tansey What woudl you have done.
It seems odd to pull a team back 60 yards to award a penalty which is highly unlikely to yield 60 yards from the resulting kick. The on report could have been dished out at the next break in play. Or could it?
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| No mark is required if you play advantage
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| Quote ="Hopie"No mark is required if you play advantage'"
Advantage is usually played from technical offences offences, not from foul play
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Dave, you have been an official in days gone by. If you had the option of the "on report" facility which officials now have in the incident with Newton / Tansey What woudl you have done.
It seems odd to pull a team back 60 yards to award a penalty which is highly unlikely to yield 60 yards from the resulting kick. The on report could have been dished out at the next break in play. Or could it?'"
If the offence was bad enough, I'd have blown immediately and I'm still yet to be convinced that is not what Silverwood actually did.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I've got to say I have nothing but praise for Childs from what I've seen of him so far.'"
Me too, quite agree
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If the offence was bad enough, I'd have blown immediately and I'm still yet to be convinced that is not what Silverwood actually did.'"
Really? Even though he quite obviously blew straight after Whiting had been tackled?
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| Quote ="CAM."Clint Newton is a dirty tvvat.'"
If there was an Opta stat for tackles made on players without the ball, Newton would be way ahead.
Every time Long released the ball he was hit late by someone. If Rovers had put less effort in late tackles and more on their clueless attack, they would have won. As it happens they got exactly what they deserved, nothing.
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| Rovers went in with obvious tactics to take out Long and irritate Hame, hoping to get him sent off. Problem is they must have spent so long discussing who should be the one to do this job they forgot to actually discuss how to get over the try line.
Speaking of Silverwoods mistakes, the two ball steals in the first half that gave Hull all their points in the opening 40. The knock on by Long leading upto the try by Briscoe which was a bit like the one he went to the screen for when Murrell knocked on, yet didnt do anything about that fumble.
Yes Rovers I thought went above and beyond to be very niggly out there on Friday, a lot more than what i've ever seen before, usually being niggly within the confindes of the rules. Silverwood I thought let a lot go because of the nature of the game.
As for the question earlier in the thread about the holding down being different to the one in the WCC I was speaking with a player about this and he said that the Aussies did this to the letter of the law so not to be penalised. When a ref shouts "MOVEMENT" as long as you are appearing to be moving to get off the player you can still spend time on him. If like in Fridays game the ref shouts and a player stays static of makes another intentional movement to slow the attacking player down then that is either interference or holding down.
Now that the refs are full time I think they should spend much more time with the clubs and the youth set ups, showing them what is acceptable and what they will be pulled up for. I know clubs will always push a ref to the limits thats part of the game, standing a yard or so offside when he's not watching is something players will always do because they know a touch judge will do nothing about it!
In some ways the dual referee system is a good idea and in others not so much, it could become such a bore to watch, nothing to moan about and players 'quirks' would be disciplined out of them. The next Terry Newton would be an angel, the rough tough forward like Morley would have to be clinical in the way his body went into the defenders...etc.
Maybe we just have to accept that some decisions go for us, some against us? With two refs I believe Rovers would have won that game on the back of the first have we'd have nilled Hull, however with two refs Hull may have been given more penalities for off the ball incidents and gone on to score more tries from the resulting possesion, but with a healthy lead would Rovers have needed to be so niggly?!
What we cant deny though is that it was a tough game and I found pretty enjoyable if not the result! As someone said if we get the perfect ref and two perfect teams we'll start seeing 0-0 draws and nobody wants that!
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| Quote ="nick hkr"Rovers went in with obvious tactics to take out Long and irritate Hame, hoping to get him sent off. Problem is they must have spent so long discussing who should be the one to do this job they forgot to actually discuss how to get over the try line.
Speaking of Silverwoods mistakes, the two ball steals in the first half that gave Hull all their points in the opening 40. The knock on by Long leading upto the try by Briscoe which was a bit like the one he went to the screen for when Murrell knocked on, yet didnt do anything about that fumble.
Yes Rovers I thought went above and beyond to be very niggly out there on Friday, a lot more than what i've ever seen before, usually being niggly within the confindes of the rules. Silverwood I thought let a lot go because of the nature of the game.
As for the question earlier in the thread about the holding down being different to the one in the WCC I was speaking with a player about this and he said that the Aussies did this to the letter of the law so not to be penalised. When a ref shouts "MOVEMENT" as long as you are appearing to be moving to get off the player you can still spend time on him. If like in Fridays game the ref shouts and a player stays static of makes another intentional movement to slow the attacking player down then that is either interference or holding down.
Now that the refs are full time I think they should spend much more time with the clubs and the youth set ups, showing them what is acceptable and what they will be pulled up for. I know clubs will always push a ref to the limits thats part of the game, standing a yard or so offside when he's not watching is something players will always do because they know a touch judge will do nothing about it!
In some ways the dual referee system is a good idea and in others not so much, it could become such a bore to watch, nothing to moan about and players 'quirks' would be disciplined out of them. The next Terry Newton would be an angel, the rough tough forward like Morley would have to be clinical in the way his body went into the defenders...etc.
Maybe we just have to accept that some decisions go for us, some against us? With two refs I believe Rovers would have won that game on the back of the first have we'd have nilled Hull, however with two refs Hull may have been given more penalities for off the ball incidents and gone on to score more tries from the resulting possesion, but with a healthy lead would Rovers have needed to be so niggly?!
What we cant deny though is that it was a tough game and I found pretty enjoyable if not the result! As someone said if we get the perfect ref and two perfect teams we'll start seeing 0-0 draws and nobody wants that!'"
Good post
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