Considering it's going to be built on a coal mining site, I don't see any reason why Swampy should object.

Not true in wakeys case (i hvae no idea about saints) wakefield council have publically stated they will not give one penny towards wakefields (as well as castlefords and featherstones) ground.

I can see what cherrydevils getting at, it is quite often those who were lucky enough to have a local council willing to build a new ground for them (or those that simply moved in with football/union) that are the first to critiscise older grounds.

Unless he has the ability to travel in time back to 1869...

I hope Cas go for a castle design for the new stadium. That would look smart if done right.

50-50 seating/standing

So you'd bin Wigan and Hull?

You missed the ' min ' on the end meaning at least 50 % seating of the 12,000 capacity

I don't know if I'm actually allowed to say this as a Wigan fan, but Knowsley Road is a good ground. It would be fantastic ground if they rebuilt the Main stand and the Dunriding Lane end (or even put a roof on it).

Which is why I have this as my location

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Exactly right.

I'm a Barrow fan and most people describe our ground as a dump (or something similar). We do own our ground, but it has seen better days - especially compared to 'new' stadia.

However, selling it and sharing a council owned ground will probably never happen. Mainly because there have been many, many clubs who went down the route of selling up with the best intentions at the time, and now lead a nomadic existence. Great traditional clubs like Oldham, Hunslet and Swinton are charged a fortune to lease a home stadium and are regularly told that the 'borrowed' stadium is unavailable.

Sheffield are moving from a soul-less athletics stadium to a soul-less all seater football stadium, Doncaster can't afford to play at their new stadium, Wigan had to play a 'home' game at Widnes etc etc etc.

Craven Park (Barrow) will be redeveloped up to SL standard at a fraction fo the cost of a new stadium. And it won't mean selling the family silver.

For me, the only things that matter about a stadium are:
1) Is it safe
2) Can you see the pitch
3) Does it have satisfactory facilities
4) Is it full

If you get the first 3, then I'm happy. If you get the 4th I'm delighted. A game lasts 80 minutes after all. What else do you need ?????

Ask the Wigan fans about their visit to Barrow in the Cup. A superb day with a superb atmosphere. Everyone could see the match, everyone survived the day and anyone who wanted a drink got one. OK, the toilets were an issue (

), but that can be fixed relatively easily.

Selling up is folly. Wakefield, Cas and Salford should think very carefully. If they ever dropped out of SL, they would have the use of a nice new stadium, but would have very little else.

Stadia is alot more important than you see it to be.

lot of people dont wont leave our old grounds but to earn money you need to and by the way cas or Wakie will not paying rent on our grounds our councell are the tight they wont put a penny in to the projects.
If Cas went into the other division we have a proven record that we can survive we got 3 time bigger crowds than any other clubs.

Diffrent in Cas we eat sleep and sh-te rugby we would go no lower than 3 thousand for poor match It is very to hard to explain but what else would we do, not many watch football in Cas or any other sports Rugby is all we know.

I dont disagree , but I also dont think you quite understand what a long term exclusion from the top tier based on location could do to your club

The amount of Leeds United shirts on show around the town says different.

If Leeds Utd were ever back in the Premier League, I'd wager it'd harm Wakefield and Castleford far more than it would harm Leeds Rhinos.

Things that a stadium NEEDS to be classed as premier in this country (in my opinion):

All stands MUST be covered.
Nothing obstructing the view anywhere in each stand (so no stanchions)
Plenty of toilets, catering stands, etc.
At least 6,000 seats.
At least 12,000 capacity.

I couldn't care less what a stadium has as long as it is safe and allows people to have a good time watching RL

Indeed. Not enough 'character' at grounds these days, and it's not getting any better with umpteen off-the-shelf stadia, including our own. Long live Craven Park and the likes.

Another bad thing about old grounds is that even when watching on TV you still dont get the best views. Especially when it comes to replays and when your getting decisions going to big screen.

Can't actually think of any examples of what you mean, but I'll go along with it and simply state that said clubs would just need to relocate their camera gantry, rather than rebuild their ground.

So some people have shirts i have a west tigers shirt despite never having been to australia, and england ru shirt despite never being to an england ru game and not liking the sport and a deportivo la coruna shirt despite never having gone to a game and not liking football.

Also man united and chelsea shirts are just as common in cas as leeds united, the vast majority of people that wear them dont go to football games but do go to rugby games both ametuer and proffesional.

I dont think anyone who doesnt come from cas has the first idea what rugby league means to the town, its the most important thing, more people talk about amatuer rl in the town than they do about all of football, only in cas have i ever seen signs in pubs saying that in the event of a clash between football and rugby on the telly rugby will always be shown.

If everywhere in the country had the same attitude towards rl as cas, then rl would be the national sport.

I've met plenty of leeds fans from cas, only one of them ever chose leeds united over cas and everyone in the pub took the p*s all night long.

I'm not sure on catering stands. I don't mind having one or two pints at a game if the mood takes me but is there any real need for an abundance of food outlets being in the criteria?

well nigel wood may have to visit your ground at some point....

he must go to every bradford home game then!!

Yeah, there was nothing better than standing in the freezing rain on an uncovered stand and having to wade through pi$$ when you visited the stinking 'facilities'.

Those were the days, eh?