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| Quote ="Jonesy"Ellis has gone ok.
I think he is getting a wrap from some commentators because they didn't expect much and have been surprised by his consistency.
His Stats have him similar to most second rowers in the comp no better or worse.
26 tackles a game
8 hit ups
0.72 offloads
2.5 missed tackles
In comparison Nathan Hindmarsh.
39 tackles a game
9 hit ups
2.2 offloads
1.89 missed tackles
Just randomly looking at other players like Watmough, Stewart, Parker Learoyd Lahrs all have figures of equal value some have less tackles and more metres made, it depends on the role they play in the team, the style of player and how much game time they get.
Ellis plays plenty of minutes each games so should have good averages.
Good player who has a go and is well liked by the fans.
He should improve more in his second season and offer more in attack.'"
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak wrote: You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs NZ matches these days is to watch all these convicts they build up get Owned™ so badly.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Put the stats away....they can lie and draw you into making bad statements.'"
He is having a go though Mate and you cant honestly say that he is doing poorly.
He has slotted in better than most imports and better than quite a few Aussies that have gone to England and struggled with the different conditions and lifestyle.
I have seen a couple of interviews he has done and he comes across as a pretty good bloke.
Give him credit for taking the chance I reckon.
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| ellis is playing so much better than morley did in his first year.
and the tigers are a poorer side than the chooks were back then imo.
with keith galloway hes their best forward. and galloway has missed loads of games.
if he keeps improving and gets the attacking side down pat, he will be a better player than morley
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| I can't believe this thread has gone on this long.
The facts are as follows.
Ellis is a very ordinary player.
Ellis plays for an average club.
Ellis is not very good.
Ellis will be back in the UK soon.
Ellis will return to Superleague a better player after playing in the worlds best league amongst the worlds best players.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"I can't believe this thread has gone on this long.
The facts are as follows.
Ellis is a very ordinary player.
Ellis plays for an average club.
Ellis is not very good.
Ellis will be back in the UK soon.
Ellis will return to Superleague a better player after playing in the worlds best league amongst the worlds best players.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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So ordinary players are not very good? Ordinary players are just that, you've contradicted yourself there.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"So ordinary players are not very good? Ordinary players are just that, you've contradicted yourself there.'"
'Ordinary' is just that.
Ordinary.
Neither very good or very bad.
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: I can't believe this thread has gone on this long deflecting attention from my threads.
The facts are as follows.
Barry_McKenzie is a very ordinary poster.
Barry_McKenzie supports an average club.
Barry_McKenzie is not very good.
Barry_McKenzie will be back at school soon.
Barry_McKenzie will return to school a better person having being owned so many times on English RL forums.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Owned™ so badly.
The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.
I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.
Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.
At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!
These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.
Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.
Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.'"
Post of the decade
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: Post of the facade '"
Flippin heck, more typo's. You lot really are going to have to get back to school quick and learn some English
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Flippin heck, more typo's. You lot really are going to have to get back to school quick and learn some English
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So you changed my post from 'Post of the Decade' to 'Post of the Facade'
Why is that applicable?
A facade is figure of speech to describe the "face" that people show other people, or a French language term given to describe the front of a building.
If you want to change peoples posts because you aren't clever enough to think ones up for yourself, fine I don't have a problem with it.
But it might be better if you chose a word that sort of ' fitted'
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote:So you changed my post from 'Post of the Decade' to 'Post of the Facade'
Why is that applicable?
A facade is figure of speech to describe the "face" that people show other people, or a French language term given to describe the front of a building.
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You obviously have an inferior convict dictionary.
Facade has other meaninings also, such as; deception, misrepresentation, deceit, misleading falsehood, smokescreen which I felt fitted the Aussie nonsense posted on here rather well
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| Quote ="Dreamer":2kythzj7You obviously have an inferior convict dictionary.
Facade has other meaninings also, such as; deception, misrepresentation, deceit, misleading falsehood, smokescreen which I felt fitted the Aussie nonsense posted on here rather well
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Definition
:2kythzj7facade:2kythzj7
noun
1 [C (ALSO façade) the front of a building, especially a large or attractive building a false appearance that is more pleasant than the reality:
Behind that amiable facade, he's a deeply unpleasant man.
We are fed up with this facade of democracy.
(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
Hope this helps.
It comes to something when I have to explain to a Pom what his own language means
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: It comes to something when I have to explain to a Pom what his own language means '"
Check a thesaurus (this is not an extinct aussie marsupial)
Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: You thought that because 'Decade' is pronounced 'Deck-ADE' you would replace it with 'Facade' which you think is pronounced 'Fack-ADE' so it sort of rhymes
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Wow, a mind reader. So I'm surprised you come on here knowing what people really think about you.
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| Dreamer Wrote: Facade has other meaninings also, such as; deception, misrepresentation, deceit, misleading falsehood, smokescreen
Its funny because it doesnt
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| Yes it does
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Dreamer Wrote: Facade has other meaninings also, such as; deception, misrepresentation, deceit, misleading falsehood, smokescreen
Its funny because it doesnt
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: Its funny because it doesnt '"
What's really funny is the amount of time you've unsuccessfully spent trying to work out what a word means. Having to look in a dictionary must have really hurt. PMSL
Posting in bold and capitals does not make you correct it only makes you look like a child that has beeen found out and is desperately trying to save face by shouting and talking over the top of everyone. But then you and your buddy Dally will be used to that
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| Quote ="Dreamer"What's really funny is the amount of time you've unsuccessfully spent trying to work out what a word means. Having to look in a dictionary must have really hurt. PMSL
Posting in bold and capitals does not make you correct it only makes you look like a child that has beeen found out and is desperately trying to save face by shouting and talking over the top of everyone. But then you and your buddy Dally will be used to that
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What is REALLY funny is that you think I NEED to look up the meaning of the word 'Facade'
It's basic English.
The sort of thing I learned when I was at school.
I like you. You are funny
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: What is REALLY funny is that you think I NEED to look up the meaning of the word 'Facade' '"
Your posts suggest otherwise.
Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: You are funny '"
You're not.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"He is having a go though Mate and you cant honestly say that he is doing poorly.
He has slotted in better than most imports and better than quite a few Aussies that have gone to England and struggled with the different conditions and lifestyle.
I have seen a couple of interviews he has done and he comes across as a pretty good bloke.
Give him credit for taking the chance I reckon.'"
I don't owe him anything.
And Morely was a MUCH better player.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"I don't owe him anything.
And Morely was a MUCH better player.'"
not in their first year.
ellis is the far better player
hes adapted to the nrl much more quickly and in a poorer side.
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