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| Quote ="Wellsy13"But it is still the area the club is named after.
Castleford is technically in the City of Wakefield now. Do we use that population?'"
Cant be beaten imo this one.
think its something like 115% that one, shame you beat me to it, i used to live there n all, first thing i thought of
Also the figures in the original link are wrong, it says warry have a population of 80'000, warringtons is at least double and probably not far off triple, there's easily 80'000 this side of town.
If widnes were in SL they'd be close to the cas figure, what about the cowboys in aus? or a few of the sydney based suburbs?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Isnt the population of machester over 500k?'"
But do you then divide it by two seen as they have two clubs there ?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Villa Park holds more people than the population of Aston. I think they win on that account when it comes to sport in general.
But the whole stat is pointless. As has already been mentioned, clubs' catchment areas are not exclusively the population of the name of their club. And on the flip side, an area might be too big to claim the full population as its catchment area. You cannot compare Castleford to Harlequins by saying "population of Cas vs London" as it is ridiculous. How big is London? Do you expect people to come from one side of London to the other?
It may just be a stat, but it is completely and utterly pointless for them two reasons.'"
no you dont...its the population of cas v's population of harliquins
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"But it is still the area the club is named after.
Castleford is technically in the City of Wakefield now. Do we use that population?'"
Castleford is in a town of its own, just in the brough of wakeield.
Castleford, hightown, glasshoughton,whitwood, three lane ends, airdale is CASTLEFORD
looks like my pub bet is looking good anyway
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| Quote ="classycas2009"no you dont...its the population of cas v's population of harliquins'"
you mean twickenham?
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| Quote ="classycas2009"Castleford is in a town of its own, just in the brough of wakeield.
Castleford, hightown, glasshoughton,whitwood, three lane ends, airdale is CASTLEFORD'"
Aston is a place of its own, i'd say so anyway.
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| Gold Coast Titans play in Robina, population 19,182. They averaged 21,618 last year.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Gold Coast Titans play in Robina, population 19,182. They averaged 21,618 last year.
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We have a winner!
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| Its gotta be quins
Harlequins get around 3k and Harlequin doesn't even exist.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Gold Coast Titans play in Robina, population 19,182. They averaged 21,618 last year.
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So they would be the ' Robina Coast Titans '
But the're not are they ?
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| In answer to the original question as asked.
Emphatically NO!!!!
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| Quote ="Darthchris"Its gotta be quins
Harlequins get around 3k and Harlequin doesn't even exist.'"
Yes it does, its a shopping centre in Watford. Pop. 4300 (chavs) on a Saturday.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So they would be the ' Robina Coast Titans '
But the're not are they ?'"
They would actually just be the Robina Titans.
But your point still stands. It's like saying Headingley Rhinos, which has a population of 2 billion students. (Unfortunately, not me anymore )
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| Quote ="classycas2009"no you dont...its the population of cas v's population of harliquins'"
Harlequins isn't a place!
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| What a silly thread, there are so many things that have an impact on crowds it's impossible to say who gets the best ones.
I could argue that Wigan get the best crowds because we have no success anymmore yet still get high averages. Saints get the worst ones because they are the best team and get lower crowds than a few teams.
Some teams get more away support because they are close to other clubs. Yorkshire clubs get more away support than Wire, saints and Wigan.
Celtic are a new team and get less away support than many teams so they get the best crowds.
Seriously who cares? Crowds should not be a reason to argue but all teams should come together to try and get better crowds for the game. Rl would be unstopable in European sport if we could fill our stadiums every week.
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| Quote ="classycas2009"Castleford is in a town of its own, just in the brough of wakeield.
Castleford, hightown, glasshoughton,whitwood, three lane ends, airdale is CASTLEFORD
looks like my pub bet is looking good anyway
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It may not be in Wakefield itself, but it is in the district (which has city status). Why does it matter if it is a town or not?
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
I think the terms in your bet are too vague to actually determine a fair winner, and therefore you will never find one. So your bet is not actually looking too good.
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| Cas win. Hands down. Deal with it. Their crowds are awesome for such a small town. Widnes not far off if they were in SL.
Saints are the most pap for a biggish town and loads of success.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Cas win. Hands down. Deal with it. Their crowds are awesome for such a small town. Widnes not far off if they were in SL.
Saints are the most pap for a biggish town and loads of success.'"
But how many of their fans are actually from Castleford? How many are from outside? I would hazard a guess at a lot more are from outside in comparison to clubs in bigger places.
It can all be explained by adapting the Central Placement Theory:
[i"Central Place Theory is a geographical theory that seeks to explain the size and spacing of human settlements. It rests on the notion that centralization is a natural principle of order and that human settlements follow it. Created by the German geographer Walter Christaller, the theory suggests that there are laws determining the number, size and distribution of towns. He was interested only in their functions as markets, thus excluding specialist towns such as mining settlements. He argued that population alone couldn t measure the significance of a town." [/i
It was adapted for sports markets (which I can't find at the moment, but used it during my dissertation 3 months ago). Basically population of an actual town means very little. Other factors that I remember seeing from the sports adaptation was access (how easy it is to get to the ground for the majority of the target market) and number of facilities in that given area (i.e. other teams). It also mentioned population within a given radius as opposed to the population of individual settlements being much more significant.
To emphasise the lack of importance, if they changed their name to "West Yorkshire Tigers", then despite still being the same club in the same town, their attendances wouldn't seem as "awesome" due to their new perception as being a county team and not a small town team, despite being the exact same club probably pulling in fans from the same catchment area.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"It may not be in Wakefield itself, but it is in the district (which has city status). Why does it matter if it is a town or not?
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
I think the terms in your bet are too vague to actually determine a fair winner, and therefore you will never find one. So your bet is not actually looking too good.'"
Think your missing the point wellsy
I was just a bet on Average attendance v's population of a town or city or whatever. not where the fans come from..lol
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
Best get my friend onto his solicitor about this anyway which ever town or city they play in, ill have to take that population.
This wasnt a thread where how far fans travell to watch their game, every team as fans from outskirts and long distances.
It was just a fun bet which stands
Unless you can tell me a team in the U.K which as a better ratio or 3 teams worldwide, no need to get the law book out, its just a bit of fun, but I bet you too, that you cant find 1.
So in future referance when people say Castleford is not big anothe to be in SL, they do pritty dam well.
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| Quote ="Dico"We have a winner!'"
Yep thats a winner for the worldwide , can ya find another 2, then I pay up, or even just 1 in the U.K
Only fun guys
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| im sorry . but the bunnie's and dragons have the most fans
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| We need a face palm smiley.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"We need a face palm smiley.'"
... Close?
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| I like this one
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| @ how seriously some people are taking the OP.
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