translated as: not the answer i was hoping for, but a correct one all the same

Wouls S Briscoe win trophies if he was in the Saints side?
A simple yes or no will do!

Or even would Wellens win any trophies at any other club.

Or would he even win a spot int he team?

Yes Wellens isnt an international standard fullback but he's a hell of a lot better than some on here make out. Simply put he wouldn't of held his place in that saints team for so long if he was bad.
The exta yard you get in SL means he's valuable at this level and he's in the top 3 imo
Briscoe isn't international standard either, probably a better call right now than wellens but then again we all know that

I think the problem with a few players IMO Wellens and Senior are two, is that from a GB/England point of view it speaks more about the failure to produce good players that these have been the best we had for so long,

tbf Senior's been a good player, I don't think anyone can deny him that.
Granted no Mark Gasnier, but he's been at the top level for about 15 years hasnt he? Not the player he was but still..a long career

Wellens looks great at club level because it's a yard slower. Those gaps he just goes through for Saints aren't there at international level. His positional play is second to none imo considering his lack of pace

Being in the GB/England side (And just for the record Im calling it GB from now on because the other countries just lose players to England anyway) does not make you a top player.


Englands last top player was Hanley.

And when did you last wni a major trophy?!







Anyway, Briscoe is England's best full-back IMO.

I sense a fishing line!
I'm not sure which end's got the maggot on mind..

I wonder if you are the same dico that thinks they know me.

If Briscoe is the best england fullback...god help us

I think thats half England problem. Too many of the current England team think they are God.

He has to be up there if not him who else Wellens





His best is well and truly past him (if he ever had a best in a GB/Eng jersey that is)

Wellens is OK, Briscoe is OK. Let's be honest, neither are Billy Slater and half the other full backs in the NRL so why debate it? We're screwed either way, because we simply don't have enough talent.

We are starting to produce some good potential and Richard Owen is one of them. In the next couple of years he will need to kick on otherwise he will go down the Michael Platt and Richie Mathers road.

The whole "he isnt billy slater" thing is a complete red herrring, like comparing any of our backs to the aussie backs

The aussie back line is hte Queensland back line, and the NSW backline is made to look bloody ordinary by them too. Compare the England backs to the NSW ones and its a bit more parity.

Right OK...

K. Gidley v Wellens/Briscoe
Hayne v Gardner/Fox
Monaghan v Gleeson
Lyon v Atkins/Shenton/Senior
Williams v Hall

Aye, pretty even that.

Not much. But Wellens is bang avarage too.

You're kidding arent you?

Absolutely not.
I do find you pretty funny though, you get some right catches on here.

Ouch..
I reckon Gleeson's better than Monaghan who is very very ordinary and Hall has potential, as does Shenton.. past that it's one way traffic.

No.....just no.

Ah....eh......stop.....just no!

Yeah, its not like State of Origin and Austrailian centres have ever come over and looked ordinary is it.

That never happens.

Your right it never happens, they all come over here and look like King's of there position

A past it Wellens is still twice as good as Briscoe.

Then switch Lyon to right centre, where he actually plays and put Matt Cooper in at left centre.