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| Quote ="Could you please change m"What did Connolly ever do for England or GB in his "pomp"? Senior's test career pishes over his, and the same could be said of Newlove, but that is more debatable.'"
did Connolly ever score an international try in the end?
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"did Connolly ever score an international try in the end?'"
Think he saved them all for Wigan.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"did Connolly ever score an international try in the end?'"
yeah 2003 i think?? the same series that moz got sent off in 12 seconds
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"What did Connolly ever do for England or GB in his "pomp"? Senior's test career pishes over his, and the same could be said of Newlove, but that is more debatable.'"
And Seniors test career reads what exactly?
They have both been in underachieving international teams there whole careers.
In their prime I know who I would have rather had in my team.
Oh btw has Senior tried his luck in the NRL?
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| in all fairness to senior,connolly,cunningham and any other gb player over the past 15 years,hardly any have excelled at international level.sculthorpe and farrel,but no others have.
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| Quote ="GB Lion"And Seniors test career reads what exactly?'"
I imagine it reads better than 1 try in 31 games for GB.
Quote ="GB Lion"hey have both been in underachieving international teams there whole careers.
In their prime I know who I would have rather had in my team.'"
Senior in the all conquering Wigan team would have blasted Connolly's achievements out of the water. Connolly was a very good defensive centre. Senior is an attacking weapon.
Quote ="GB Lion"Oh btw has Senior tried his luck in the NRL?'"
If playing in the NRL is the barometer for talent, then Edwards must have been awful.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
If playing in the NRL is the barometer for talent, then Edwards must have been awful.'"
He was for GB.
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| Quote ="GB Lion"And Seniors test career reads what exactly?
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30+ caps. a 13 year international career, multiple selections in the world 13. A man of the series award against NZ in 02, and a series winners medal against NZ.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"30+ caps. a 13 year international career, multiple selections in the world 13. A man of the series award against NZ in 02, and a series winners medal against NZ.'"
I bet he doesnt have them anymore, he prob sold them on ebay
To be serious though, as to the 3 centres carrers, In my opinion Newlove and Conolly both played against far better opposition throughout the world in there day than Senior has.
btw I'm in no way saying Senior has been a bad centre!
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| Quote ="GB Lion"I bet he doesnt have them anymore, he prob sold them on ebay
To be serious though, as to the 3 centres carrers, In my opinion Newlove and Conolly both played against far better opposition throughout the world in there day than Senior has.
btw I'm in no way saying Senior has been a bad centre!'"
How do you work that out?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
If playing in the NRL is the barometer for talent, then Edwards must have been awful.'"
Edwards played in Australia. Balmain I think....
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"How do you work that out?'"
I work it out by the that they played against, were better than the Senior played against, IMO
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| Quote ="GB Lion"I work it out by the centres that they played against, were better than the centres Senior played against, IMO'"
Name them then...
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| Quote ="bobm"Edwards played in Australia. Balmain I think....'"
He did and he was gash.
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| Quote ="bobm"Edwards played in Australia. Balmain I think....'"
I know, but my point is that he was rubbish and played reserve grade. Think he scored 1 first grade try in his time there.
The point being - playing in Oz isn't the be all and end all and you don't have to have played there to be a top player.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"He did and he was gash.'"
Would you say the same thing about Ellery?
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| Quote ="RB"Would you say the same thing about Ellery?'"
Why would I? Hanley was terrific for Balmain.
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| Quote ="RB"Would you say the same thing about Ellery?'"
No, because he forced his way into the Balmain team and was in Oz for a couple of years consecutively at Balmain and Wests and won the Golden Boot in 89 (a year he played at Wests).
Edwards couldn't make a first choice half back spot his own.
Why do you make the comparison?
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| Senior better than Newlove - WTF?!?
Newlove was an artist. Senior - a hod carrier. As for Connolly not doing much against the Aussies - I admit he was never a great attacking threat. But the point about Connolly is very few Aussies did anything against HIM. The guy was a straightjacket to his opponent.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"The point being - playing in Oz isn't the be all and end all and you don't have to have played there to be a top player.'"
It isn't the be all and end all but I think the fact that whenever Edwards stepped out of his comfort zone and up to world level he was proven to be waaay out of his deapth. Criminally overrated IMO.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"It isn't the be all and end all but I think the fact that whenever Edwards stepped out of his comfort zone and up to world level he was proven to be waaay out of his deapth. Criminally overrated IMO.'"
Hardly waaay out of his depth was he? Slight exaggeration there.
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| Quote ="RB"Hardly waaay out of his depth was he? Slight exaggeration there.'"
He was, he was 5hite. Worse than Long.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"He was, he was 5hite. Worse than Long.'"
Your making yourself look silly
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| Quote ="GB Lion"Your making yourself look silly'"
Why? Edwards is held up as some kind of all time greatest British scrum half, but when it came to having to do the business against the Aussies he was gash. Sheer gash. The only impact he ever made at test level was on Brad Clyde's face.
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| Quote ="Could you please change m"Why? Edwards is held up as some kind of all time greatest British scrum half, but when it came to having to do the business against the Aussies he was gash. Sheer gash. The only impact he ever made at test level was on Brad Clyde's face.'"
You could turn that round and say the same about Senior, but hang on he plays for Leeds.
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