no medals (yet)........just bragging rights................not bad from a small pond.

ps....were you one of those who couldn't wait for the 8 easy points?

If all that matters to you is "bragging rights" then crack on, I dont give a toss about them, I am more concerned with trophies and actual achievements.

I never thought there was any sych thing as easy points, most sane FC fans never did.

Like I said, enjoy your success whilst it lasts.

cheers we will.............hope you keep on underestimating 'small pond' clubs as well.

Everything is comparative, Hull KR is a small pond compared to the pressure of being a St Helens player, they are the best, and have been for some time afterall.

Yay, KR vs FC! It's not like this hasn't been covered in every single thread that mentions either of those teams

I'm not coming at it from the FC/KR point of view, I was simply making an observation that no player would opt to move to a higher pressure environment on the same/less money than they were getting where expectations were lower.

It would be the same for a player from anywhere other than Leeds and Saints.

This seems to have gone way off topic, as far as i can see the Saints fans are happy to put their youth into the 7 shirt and we wanted Dobbo to sign up to HKR's 7 for longer, everyones happy.........

I'm not, I still have to watch Thorman play until September.

Thats the attitude I have towards Hull, I don't care less what they do, I am only interested in what we do. The only interest I have is when we play you and then I want to beat you, not because you are FC, but because we are KR

Its fair to say Dobson will be earning a good wage, he's pretty much the linchpin of our side, but I don't think money is the only reason why he's here. We stuck our neck out to bring him here by making some tough decisions before hand, so maybe, just maybe there's a loyalty issue there too. Especially considering he's playing very well in a settled side that is also performing well.

As for comparing us to saints, I'm afraid there's no comparison. Until we're challenging regularly for honours and can boast similar success with youth development, we cannot consider ourselves at the same level, but that doesn't mean that every player at any given time wants to join them.

It's not a lack of ambition on Dobbo's part, I just think he feels he can challenge for honours at Hull KR over the next three years.

Agree, it never means more than 2 point to me.

Wrong thread

Is this not the Hull vs KR love in thread then?

Think you can delete Briscoe on the "man for man" if you look at Briscoe/Wellens stats you will find Wellens performance figures are a massive 50% better than Briscoe. and this is with Wellens dodgy knee.

I suppose Briscoe can run the ball up quicker...but thats about all.

That is if you don't want a fair comparison of the stats for this season so far, which will reveal a completely different story in many of the most important stats, such as tries scored, metres per carry, clean breaks missed tackles and errors.

Wellens has better stats for offloads, tackle busts and try assists.

All that and Briscoe is quicker as well you say? It's no contest is it?

Think you need to add metres gained, tackles and tries in favour of wellens as well.

If speed is the criteria above anything else, then Penny is a shoe in for england wing selection.

Not if you want a fair comparison.

Wello hatrick tonight, he must have read your comment about tries scored

Ahh, that might change it a bit

Briscoe got a hatrick as well, unfortunately it was a hatrick of knock ons



Sadly Briscoe is not international class.
Wello isnt upto it these days at international level, however he is still light years ahead of Briscoe, who is a brave player but lacking in anything else.

Yes, it's quite clear Rovers' results mean nothing to you



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How did Dobson play? *chuckles*

Which explains why the England coach has not included him in the squad then

Behind a well beaten pack.

Unfortunately, we don't have an international class fullback in this country, and I can't remember that last time we did. All the best in SL are antipodean and that doesn't look like changing in the near future. Until the general attitude to how a fullback should play changes throughout the game here, we're going to be a long way behind in this position.