Maybe so but the intensity was still stronger than over here and thats the reality.

I want England/GB to be competitive just as much as the next man but the WC truly showed our inferiority in the backs. Until we start teaching the basics correctly we are never going to be able to compete.

The idea that the likes of McGuire could compete down there and play half is just not true, he doesn't have the basic skill set to do so.

intensity...blah blah blah...

what made it intense was that both teams were poor and it was a close game

I'm afraid you're in denial chappie.

Regardless of that game, it doesn't make any difference to the reality that our 'best' got their backsides handed to them time and again less than 12 months ago. It doesn't change the reality that we have professional rugby players that can't pass, tackle, run good lines etc. It doesn't change the reality that British RL is so far behind the NRL it is unbelievable. It doesn't change the reality that to the Australasians, SL is a figure of ridicule and so are our 'best' players.

I suppose we can always keep making these threads up that x could do this and x could do that. Funny how, whenever x plays these players from the 'poor games' in the NRL, x looks garbage.

You really are an idiot - why not answer your point about half backs making 30 tackles in a game - prove your point and then you might actually rise above the status of bafoon - of course you cannot - that is why you are a bafoon

The same man that's scored 3 tries in the last 2 grand finals and the only man to score in 3? Saints' defence must be so lazy!

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i saw danny boys defence in the WCC.

imagine having to face attackers like that every week.

what were your thoughts on last nights games?

or the broncos / warriors game?

or cowboys / storm games?

Hello.

I'd like to point out that in your signature, you have Wigan finishing 3rd this year and reaching the Grand Final as well as Warrington winning the Challenge Cup.

Therefore, I will not be taking you seriously.

all true except the bit on your best players

morley for example is very well regarded in australia, and ellis is going the same way.

as youve mentioned your backs are where the problem arises, especially the halves.

your forwards are certainly on par with anything nz or australia can match

campese looked very very good. SoO call up i think.

He was about the only on, that game was way below NRL standards IMO.

I wished Setanta would have shown the Wests V roosters game instead

in hindsight maybe, but you nebver know how a game is going to go.

To be fair they should have been showing both, the useless g!ts.

The difference is bad tipping doesn't get in the way of facts...

The Tigers v Roosters game was a far better match to watch.
It reminded me of a Super League game in the way it was played.
The two refs experiment seems to have changed the way the NRL is played for the better or is it the coaches who have stopped the wrestle tactics. Either way it's a better product for the spectator.

Gareth Ellis was good again without doing anything spectacular, he played the full 80mins. He did go on one long run which preceded the best try of the game for Tuiaki, Benji Marshall produced a superb pass under extreme pressure to get the winger over the line.

not a bad point raised, although i think it would take a lot longer for a half from england to make a mark over here. there are worse halves and 5/8ths running around in the nrl then these 2.

The five drives and a kick are a myth.
If that was the case the game would be predictable as buggery.

If it was 5 hits up the middle and a kick why is that not what is seen at a much higher level like Test or even SOO level?
Predictable play like that should have been easy for England to overcome with their natural "flair"

Manly did not use that theory in the GF last year nor do most teams.
Off your own line maybe.
The Warriors or the Cowboys or Canberra last year?
Burrow is too small, McGuire is inconsistent and neither bring the skill sets required in the NRL for a Half.
They have there own qualities that are more suited to SL.
A kicking game is almost Mandatory for a Half Back in the NRL, Burrow is average in that department.
The ability to set up your backline and pass in either direction at speed is a basic skill of a 5/8 that McGuire has not accomplished.

You really are thick as two short planks - you didn't understand any of that did you. It wasn't about Danny McGuire you two cent piece of pond life it was about players in general and how none of them deserve to be called "speed bumps" by guttless keyboard warriors like you.

Now crawl back under your stone and come back out when you're a man.

As an aside how old are you exactly, my ball park guess would be twelve. I need to know just so as I can find some excuse for you.

you really are a bitter old twit.

if a player cant tackle - an essential skill in RL - then being called a speed bump is the least of their concerns.

Having watched the Eels v Raiders game the idea that every NRL game is notch up in intensity over the SL is a fallacy - this was a very ordinary game - which is typical of 50% of the NRL matches we see. Anyone who thinks ames like this have reater intensity than the Saints v Leeds ame of last week is simply deluded. Defences on both sides were shambolic - even Hindmarsh failed to prevent a try through a simple missed tackle on his own line.

As for the halves on both sides - it would impossible for McGuire to offer less than any of these four players. Finch his whole game plan was to hoof the ball the high as he could to the hapless Canberra full back who failed more often than not to catch it - so much for high level of basic technique in the NRL

Games like this are as far away from the intensity of a Brisbane v Storm as a lot of SL games.

You watched Hindmarsh's effort at stopping the the against the Raiders - that make him a speed bump too?

I take it from that you are unable to prove your point

Anthony Whatmough missed 16 tackles in one half in the GF when the Storm turned the Eagles over - does that make him a speed bump too?

How are Cronulla going this season?