nahs hes not, hes not bad.

he is just one of those people that doesnt think too much of the sydney clubs.

its his opinion.

The Waratahs averaged 25/26000 last year (admittedly down on previous years), the Roosters wasn't that high at all.

I'm not saying we should be ashamed at all, its good to read that the NRL is sorting itself out. The problem is when you pick and choose figures to illustrate your point that somebody could easily do in reverse to RL.

Your point is a good one, people in NZ appear disillusioned with Union and League is on a high. However you can't prove this with isolated crowd figures where you ignore the big crowds and only mention the small.

There's a long way to go but inroads are being made.

Can you point something out that I said that isn't true?

Being a good RL fan isn't about lying to yourself or ignoring the facts.

Don't know weather It's true or not,all I know is that your defending the the other code like It was above RL in every aspect.












Sometimes!If not all the time.

to be fair, its not played in the entire country though

thats quite fair.

ta very much

manly4ever wrote: Max is another troll by the sounds of it.


Can you point something out that I said that isn't true?

Being a good RL fan isn't about lying to yourself or ignoring the facts. dont worry about manly4never. he is just very stressed out at the moment

Comparing the state union team to the clubs in Sydney.

What'll you do when the Sydney clubs are attracting bigger crowds than the Tahds? Will you start comparing the Sydney clubs to the Wannabies...

Union will never be taken over by league in the pacific or NZ...

Majors hurdles facing this, the shambolic RLIF and NZRL. Once you sort this, then you can start dreaming.

Nope, it's dull as dishwater.

That said, the super-14 is teious to the extreme, tedious AND amateurish. My only experience of watching S-14 I kept thinking that the fat forwards were going to have a heart attack.

So what would you say comparing the NZ Warriors to a NZ club Union side is?

No I'm not, I'm pointing out that Dallys selective use of facts can be used to demonstrate the opposite.

I would also say that the NRL is a higher standard than SL does that make me an NRL troll or is that just telling the truth?

wallaby's baby . ooh yer

Irrelevant. By that token CC represent a very small part of Wales.

They represent a region a lot bigger than the S14 game that Dally compared it to.

Its not comparing like with like.

very true, glad you agree

good luck with walters as your coach

taken unproven aussie coaches will backfire horribly one day.

what i found dull was france performances in the world cup

thankfully the teams that had NRL players in it did quite well.

What a poor attempt at a strawman argument...

On so many occasions he bats for union even though he is a leaguey.Yet he always speaks the truth .Well let's face it true or not I will and will not defend that scum code in any shape or form.

You either don't know what a strawman argument is or you haven't read this thread. I suspect both.

Try and explain exactly how it is a strawman, seeing as though the discussion started about the NZ Warriors.

Read the rest of the posts before you butt in. You'd see the reason I was comparing Waratahs gates to club League was to show Dally that it is pretty much what he is doing with NZ Warriors and isolated club Union games.

And I'm sure you often made a fool of then.

I am speaking the truth, I notice you don't actually try and argue against what I'm saying, just the fact that I'm saying it at all.

If we're gonna delude ourselves lets go all out and say something like RL is overtaking Football because Leeds Rhino's got a crowd bigger than some Fulham games.

Instead of focussing on an Island of 3m people lets go all out and claim we're about to overtake Football worldwide. After all our World Cup final got a higher gate than some Football World Cup games!

I called you out on how ridiculous you were being when you compared Sydney clubs to the union state team. In response you attempted to compare the only pro RL team in all of NZ with a handfull of provincial union sides. Clearly a strawman argument, and a poor one at that.

Discussions evolve, try and keep up champ.

Before I butt in?

If you don't want to read posts from other people you probably shouldn't be posting on a discussion forum...

This thread is almost half a dozen pages long. Do you really think I shouldn't be allowed to ridicule your posts simply because the discussion earlier in the thread was on a different subject?

ive had a massive"debate" with MD on this topic.

i disagree with him but everyones entitled to their opinion.

i think living in sydney and being a RL fan it cant get any better anywhere.

the choice of clubs to go to.

for example this weekend im off to homebush to watch souths as a season ticket holder

sat night and its down to the gong with my cousin whose a season ticket holder

and sunday im off with an english fan to watch the warriors keep manly at the bottom of the ladder.

it doesnt get any better than that.

and when it comes to knowledge about RL, australians are it. being exposed to so much RL in the media means even an average fans has so much more knowledge than even a hardcore english fan

the difference between union in australia and RL in NZ is this :

1. RU in australia is going backwards, RL in NZ is growing
2. RU in australia pretends to be a big sport. RL in NZ never exaggerates its popularity, which nevertheless is growing

I never said you weren't speaking the truth at all.All I said was you like to gloat about the other more then anything .I just have this feeling that you like 15 more then 13.It's time to come out of the closet lol.





And another thing to,when someone says something about the other you jump in straight away and give your facts.Now I'm not telling you not to ok don't get me wrong.