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Which 30 seconds of the game was that?

Without doubt , well done

A bad start but who'd have thought after the game at Leeds that Celtic would only lose 4-0 to Saints?

A learning experience, and something that will progress with time

Fucking hell.

Give that man a biscuit. I have not heard well drilled and impressive in the same breath as Widnes for ing donkeys years.

Stanny was the man officially in charge last night and has done really well. Still a nipper at 29 in the coaching role, granted we were beaten last week at Barrow but he's proved ruthless in that if your not playing well your out. I don't think we've had that either in years in a genuine squad competitiveness. That is the line drawn in the sand now and something for Paul Cullen to build on to and they were chatting a lot throughout the match last night too when I glanced behind me. Cullen was even clapping when we scored.



All in all a good night. The last time we nilled someone live on the telly I think was the Regal Trophy Final back in 1992 (Leeds 24-0).

Who is Stanny?

Stankevitch

So this is the club the expansionist loons wanted in SL.

I'd laugh but it's just so sad how clueless these people really are and how much damage their crackpot theories continue to ruin our great game.

Toulouse aren't ready for the Conference and France is barely capable of one Pro team let alone two and I see no reason why any British team should make way for them under any circumstances.

Toulouse need to prove their worth with actions not promises and bull. It's early days and it was a hard start but none the lass that was truly dreadful.
Maybe they will turn it around but it looks far worse than ever imagined.

Finally well done Widnes, proper team, proper club with proper potential.

Can not see why this match was the TV match complete joke know wonder Batley was moaning they are only on once.
I thought it was a chance to see how good rugby was in this league not what club you are come on Sky get it together.

Not sure why Batley are moaning - Widnes only have one home league game on, too?

It was the obvious game to show - Toulouse entering the league is the big story, plus the 2005 Challenge Cup rematch and the timing of the Cullen announcement helped add interest. Doubt there'll be a bigger crowd for a championship game this season until the play-offs, either.

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I thought it was the natural choice for a televised game.. Toulouse going into this were an unknown quantity and have been included to create some razzmatazz..

Okay so they got dicked on last night but no-one couldn't have been sure that it wouldn't have been a close game.. Personally I thought it might have been alright to watch from the neutrals point of view despite it being a walkover and that seems to have been a bit supported on this thread.

Anyone know where I can find a report for this including cards and penalty counts

it was far better to watch than the usual hammering. The tries came from good plays generally rather than falling over the line and Toulouse showed considerable flair with the little possession they had.

Check sang-et-or.net in a couple days' time.

Are you chemical Ali! That is the biggest spin job I have ever heard. Of course Widnes scored tries from good play, they were allowed to play as much as they wanted.

Seriously I get your point, I do not fondly remember big Bradford sides doing just that. However both are unwatchable IMO unless you are a Widnes fan which is fair enough.

Of course there are excuses for both, but less so for this. In this case Widnes had a new coach, are a good side and were up for it so I'll give Toulouse that. But in terms of it being flair I can't accept. Widnes were simply offered the chance to run riot and did which turned it into virtually touch and pass. They executed their drills very well but then you can when a finger is rarely laid upon you. There really is no excuse for actually standing back and letting the opposition play. At least in the other scenario the team had to work to get to the line.

No, it was flat cappers who wanted them straight in SL, expansionist loons wanted them in the Championship.

You are judging TO on one game against on of the (if not the) top side(s) in the Championship, I can only comment on the reliability of your conclusion (ask your science teacher).

TO are in the Championship to prove their worth by actions. If they have exactly the same result as Catalans did in SL - i.e. finsih bottom first year, cup final the next and then top 3 finish the year after, then their Championship adventure could be considered a success. Shall we judge them in three years' time?

Are you sure about that? In the 2nd half they couldnt even hold the ball following 2 tap penalties. their hooker just threw the ball back wildly.

I refer people (including Vastman) to the post at the bottom of p3 again

I thought it would have been much closer than it was and Toulouse will certainly have to improve, I thought their number 8 was excellent by the way.

Lack of preparation seems to have played a big part and that is down to the coaching team at Toulouse, but given they are in the Championship for one reason, to qualify for SL, what does it matter if they get a few spankings early in the season this year?

I'm sure that the travel does not help them away but they will benefit from other teams suffering the same problem when they play at home. I just think that inevitably the rugby will suffer. What's the point of a team that is artificially strong at home and artificially weak away?

Widnes looked pretty useful from 1-17 and next weeks fixture against Halifax certainly looks tasty.

Toulouse will struggle away from home all year (improving as they go along) but they have the biggest home advantage in the league (overtaking the cumbrian clubs), which again will imrpove as the season goes on and the weather gets hotter in Southern France


I wouldn't worry too much about them yet

Toulouse will have to improve by some way, but did anyone really expect them to arrive as a fully-developed side? That was never the thinking behind their inclusion in the Championship. Hopefully, they will develop in the same way that Catalans have.

Otherwise, Widnes looked a good side – sharp and disciplined, and producing some good attacking play. And it was good to see young players being given their chance. Hopefully, Paul Cullen will continue that policy.

There are certainly regular posters on here who have been bulling up French RL, how strong it is and how gifted the players are, so yes, I think that quite a few people were expecting them to arrive as a fully developed team.

In fact it is quite insulting to the rest of the Championship that they haven't.

Yeh I was called patronising for suggesting that they may struggle to make a final in two years with players picked from the LER.

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