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| Quote ="rhino77"Burgess Leulaui Graham
Newton Buderus Cunningham
Lynch Peacock Cayless
Morrison JJB Gilmour
Menzies Ablett Wilkin
Langley Sinfield Flannery
Godwin Diskin Roby
Solomona Lauitiiti Puletua
Scruton Bailey Hargreaves
Worrincy Eastwood Clough
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I would rate morrison higher than jjb and gilmour about the same as jjb.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I would rate morrison higher....'"
How many GFs and WCCs has he won?
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| Quote ="Cadoo!"Not what he used to be granted and injuries are taking there toll but he's no worse than other halfback in super league.'"
I'll agree there. But that's more about the poor standard of half backs in super league. He is not, and never was world class!
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"How many GFs and WCCs has he won?'"
I dont believe any player has won any of those trophies they might happen to be in a team that won them, but thats another matter, there are plenty of better 2nd rowers in sl than jjb that havent won wcc's and Gfs, they are still however better. Ie westwood, manu, morrison, lms (when he plays there), burgess (when he plays there), westerman, hock.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I dont believe any player has won any of those trophies they might happen to be in a team that won them, but thats another matter, there are plenty of better 2nd rowers in sl than jjb that havent won wcc's and Gfs, they are still however better. Ie westwood, manu, morrison, lms (when he plays there), burgess (when he plays there), westerman, hock.'"
The problem is that there are different types of 2nd rowers out there.But JJB is damn good at what he does and I wouldn't swap him with any of the players you mentioned
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| Quote ="Steve-O"The problem is that there are different types of 2nd rowers out there.But JJB is damn good at what he does and I wouldn't swap him with any of the players you mentioned'"
Fair enough but if i had to choose between morrison and jjb, morrison every day of the week.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Fair enough but if i had to choose between morrison and jjb, morrison every day of the week.'"
Ooh dunno about that. Age, injuries etc? They are different types I reckon too. JJB is the one that does so much work that goes unnoticed. Morrison is very good but does a different job for his team. Good player though.
I'm probably biased cos JJB is already a bit of a legend at Leeds
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| Quote ="Steve-O"Quote ="pyeman"Fair enough but if i had to choose between morrison and jjb, morrison every day of the week.'"
Ooh dunno about that. Age, injuries etc? They are different types I reckon too. JJB is the one that does so much work that goes unnoticed. Morrison is very good but does a different job for his team. Good player though.
I'm probably biased cos JJB is already a bit of a legend at Leeds'" '"
Maybe that's why Pyeman doesn't rate him.
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| Quote ="Steve-O"Quote ="pyeman"Fair enough but if i had to choose between morrison and jjb, morrison every day of the week.'"
Ooh dunno about that. Age, injuries etc? They are different types I reckon too. JJB is the one that does so much work that goes unnoticed. Morrison is very good but does a different job for his team. Good player though.
I'm probably biased cos JJB is already a bit of a legend at Leeds'" '"
Injuries have stymied morrison the last few years its true (which is a shame because he is a class act to watch and had a reputation for never missing a game in the nrl), but when comparing players you have to assume they will be fit, buderus is better than newton, the fact that buderus is likely to spend more time on the sidelines doesnt alter that.
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| Quote ="pyeman"is better than newton, the fact that buderus is likely to spend more time on the sidelines doesnt alter that.'"
Is he?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Quote ="Steve-O"
Maybe that's why Pyeman doesn't rate him.
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Nah i rate plenty of leeds players- peacock, ali l, ellis, webb, burrow, diskin, scruton, mcguire, donald and smith out of last years squad, but the likes of jjb, toopi, bailey and senior i dont rate. and the rest i'm generally indifferant or undecided.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Is he?'"
Better than newton? of course he is, even now, past his best he will run rings round him.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Better than newton? of course he is, even now, past his best he will run rings round him.'"
No, Is "buderus is likely to spend more time on the sidelines"?
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| Quote ="rhino77"Burgess Leulaui Graham
Newton Buderus Cunningham
Lynch Peacock Cayless
Morrison JJB Gilmour
Menzies Ablett Wilkin
Langley Sinfield Flannery
Godwin Diskin Roby
Solomona Lauitiiti Puletua
Scruton Bailey Hargreaves
Worrincy Eastwood Clough
5-2-2'"
Individually you have gone for. I mean as a whole pack Bradford are one of the strongest packs in super league. IMO they are the strongest.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Man of Steel. What?'"
Burgess was out for a third of the season. I'd rather have Burgess than Graham any day of the week.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"icon_lol.gif Burgess was out for a third of the season. I'd rather have Burgess than Graham any day of the week.'"
Brighouse eh?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Brighouse eh?'"
and?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"How many GFs and WCCs has he won?'"
Garry Schofield < Karl Pratt...
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| Quote ="Paul124897"and?'"
Rastrick?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Rastrick?'"
Nah, plenty of family in Rastrick though. Waring Green area myself. Why?
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Nah, plenty of family in Rastrick though. Waring Green area myself. Why?'"
Your choice of Burgess over Graham, evidently a blinkered Bulls fan.
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| As long as Bradford never sign Jamie Lyon I’ll remain the happiest rugby league supporter in the world. After the way Bradford dominated me when I was a kid I can’t go through that again. They can sign Darren Lockyer, Joe Westerman, Richie Owen and them other world cup looser from Australia. But if Bradford every and I mean ever sign Jamie Lyon and your likely to see me drowning my sorrows for months on end - the mans that good.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"No, Is "buderus is likely to spend more time on the sidelines"?'"
As i understand there are doubts about whether he will even start the season, plus his age and the fact that he has just come back from a major injury, would suggest that yes there is a good chance he will be spending time on the sidelines.
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| Quote ="pyeman"As i understand there are doubts about whether he will even start the season, plus his age and the fact that he has just come back from a major injury, would suggest that yes there is a good chance he will be spending time on the sidelines.'"
and getting contract money?
If so, nice piece of business for him.
I do however think he will turn out in the Rhino's colours!
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