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| Quote ="salford1970"You really are a tool'"
A lawsuit aint the only reason Carney will be licking his lips.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"A lawsuit aint the only reason Carney will be licking his lips.'"
That is actually quite funny, why didn't you start with that remark?
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"www.sportsfan.com.au/leeds-ceo-out-to-block-carney-move-report/tabid/91/newsid/144113/default.aspx
What are peoples thoughts on this?
Assuming it's true, and it would be a libellous comment by The Sun if not, WTF has it got to do with him who other clubs do or don't sign. [i[uWe've had plenty of NRL players who have come over after doing stupid things in Australia[/u[/i in the past. Bird and Monaghan without even thinking about it, hasn't seemed to have bothered him before. Is he just worried Catalan May become genuine contenders with a player of that quality on board?
Players make mistakes and like most other people have the right to earn a living and have the chance to move on with their lives. He and Leeds have rightly stuck by players who have done stupid things so what makes this so different?
Rant over'"
We've had plenty of our own do stupid things over the years. Some may have even played for Leeds. Shock Horror
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| Poor from Hethrington if true. Like OP said, it's nothing to do with him. I don't see how Carney will tarnish SL's reputation any more that what Hardaker, Ryan Bailey, Chev Walker did.
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| Let me get this straight. A club boss who has just been charged with "improper conduct...a breach of operational rules...by engaging in conduct which is prejudicial to the interests of the game", feels it is right and proper to try and influence other clubs to speak out against a club hiring a player because it might "tarnish the competition's reputation"?
Oh sweet irony.
I bet there were more than a few chuckles as emails were opened at SL clubs today.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"We've had plenty of NRL players who have come over after doing stupid things in Australia in the past. Bird and Monaghan without even thinking about it, hasn't seemed to have bothered him before. Is he just worried Catalan May become genuine contenders with a player of that quality on board?
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You might want to actually read the whole article before shooting your load.
[iIt's not the first time Hetherington has hit out at the Super League club's signing of an axed NRL star.
He was a vocal critic when Catalan signed Australian Test star Greg Bird in 2009 after he had been released by Cronulla as he faced charges over an alleged assault.
"It is disappointing that a club should want to sign him," Hetherington said at the time.[/i
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Quote ="loiner81"You might want to actually read the whole article before shooting your load.
[iIt's not the first time Hetherington has hit out at the Super League club's signing of an axed NRL star.
He was a vocal critic when Catalan signed Australian Test star Greg Bird in 2009 after he had been released by Cronulla as he faced charges over an alleged assault.
"It is disappointing that a club should want to sign him," Hetherington said at the time.[/i'"
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/240855 ... brawl.html
Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!
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[iIt's not the first time Hetherington has hit out at the Super League club's signing of an axed NRL star.
He was a vocal critic when Catalan signed Australian Test star Greg Bird in 2009 after he had been released by Cronulla as he faced charges over an alleged assault.
"It is disappointing that a club should want to sign him," Hetherington said at the time.[/i'"
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/240855 ... brawl.html
Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!
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| Quote ="number 6"www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2408557/Rugby-players-jailed-over-street-brawl.html
Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!'"
And what's that got to do with Eastbourne Warrior being unable to read more than 1 paragraph of a story?
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| Has that story just hit the HDM?
I won't spoil it for you but one of them goes on to win 6 GF rings.
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| Quote ="loiner81"And what's that got to do with Eastbourne Warrior being unable to read more than 1 paragraph of a story?'"
IT wasnt, it was in response to your post about hetherington whinging about nrl players getting in bother when he cant remember his own players doing the same or worse
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| Isn't his gripe more to do with the fact that Catalans being able to sign players whom can't get a visa in the UK gives them an unfair advantage?
Either way, I couldn't care less.
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| Quote ="number 6"IT wasnt, it was in response to your post about hetherington whinging about nrl players getting in bother when he cant remember his own players doing the same or worse'"
Oh, so nothing at all to do with what I posted then.
Sorry, my mistake.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Isn't his gripe more to do with the fact that Catalans being able to sign players whom can't get a visa in the UK gives them an unfair advantage?
Either way, I couldn't care less.'"
I tend to agree.
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| Dangerous path this.
If he wants to go down it then so be it.
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| The assumption here is that French employment law will grant him a working visa whereas the UK wouldn't, which I'm not sure is the case with Carney (albeit IIRC it was the case with Bird).
Hence, assuming he's legally entitled to work, GH wants to adopt the role of "moral guardian" and try to deny him registration whilst perhaps not being best placed to do so due to the antics of some players at his own club ?????
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"The assumption here is that French employment law will grant him a working visa whereas the UK wouldn't, which I'm not sure is the case with Carney (albeit IIRC it was the case with Bird).
Hence, assuming he's legally entitled to work, GH wants to adopt the role of "moral guardian" and try to deny him registration whilst perhaps not being best placed to do so due to the antics of some players at his own club ?????'"
Quote ="in the case of Walker and Bailey, BBC report"
Mr Hetherington ... said: "This has been totally out of character and the players have paid the price.
"It is something they will regret for the rest of their lives and for which they have been severely punished.
"Everybody is capable of making mistakes, that is my reaction to everybody in life.'"
Quote ="When Walker and Bailey were released"
Gary Hetherington, the Leeds chief executive, said: "The players are ashamed of their involvement and are full of remorse. Their actions were out of character. All have been at the club from the age of 15 and had an unblemished record.
"They have made a mistake and been punished by the court. We will continue to give our support ..."'"
All of which, btw, seemed reasonably fair enough to me then, and now.
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| its weird how much that is brought up. Its almost always against Bailey and Leeds, the tool who started it never gets a mention, its never really thrown at Chev Walker even though both got a stronger punishment than Bailey and is brought up for more frequently than the likes of Paleaaesina or Cockayne, Hull Fans tell me Lee Radford is known to the doormen of Hull for liking a few beers and a scrap as if it is somehow endearing. Odd.
On this, not a great look that some of SL's best imports are Aussies that the NRL has given up on because of poor behaviour so there is a good point there. Saying that Carney shouldnt be de-registered for what he did. If his club wanted to sack him then that is their choice, but what he did wasnt bad enough for him to be deregistered.
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| Hethrington needs to just keep quiet. As others have said, he can't complain about Carney when he himself has supported and stuck up for players who have gone to prison. IMO I don't think any chairman can take the moral high ground as I'm sure they've all supported players who've been bad lads in one way or another.
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| Quote ="Gary Hetherington"
"Everybody is capable of making mistakes, that is my reaction to everybody in life.
Except Carney, obviously"'"
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| Of course I have a vested interest being a Dragons fan, I am just uncomfortable overall with the thought of one clubs CEO having influence over which players can and can't be part of Superleague.
What if Mc Dermott goes into his office tomorrow and says "we need Carney, he's the only player for me"... for example
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| GH is a moron with too much say, a lot like ML before him.
look at who he married, is this a man with reasoned choices?
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| Quote ="Standee"GH is a moron with too much say, a lot like ML before him.
look at who he married, is this a man with reasoned choices?'"
A moron who runs his club a hell of alot better than your sack of sh*t excuse for a club.
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| As far as I recall, GH didn't have a problem with Catalan signing Bird.
It was when Bradford tried to sign him first that he kicked up a stink.
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| So a couple of weeks ago Zak Hardaker had to be seriously punished or kicked out of the game because the actions he was presumed (but interestingly never even vaguely proved) to have taken were so detrimental to the sports reputation in this country. Now Gary Hetherington is questioning the wisdom of signing someone who we know for a fact has repeatedly brought the game into disrepute through his actions and everyone is up in arms - and he's the one being accused of double standards.
I would have thought that the holier than thou brigade who were out in force for the past month would be fully behind Gary on this. Unless they're massive hypocrites who merely choose their stance dependent on which club's involved of course.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"So a couple of weeks ago Zak Hardaker had to be seriously punished or kicked out of the game because the actions he was presumed (but interestingly never even vaguely proved) to have taken were so detrimental to the sports reputation in this country. Now Gary Hetherington is questioning the wisdom of signing someone who we know for a fact has repeatedly brought the game into disrepute through his actions and everyone is up in arms - and he's the one being accused of double standards.
I would have thought that the holier than thou brigade who were out in force for the past month would be fully behind Gary on this. Unless they're massive hypocrites who merely choose their stance dependent on which club's involved of course.'"
Or you could put it this way. GH has backed and supported someone who has made homophobic slurs on a rugby pitch and was investigated a second time for the exact same thing. He then goes on to say we don't want Carney in SL because of his reputation.
Now who's acting holier than thou and has double standards?
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