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I don't think a merger would work. Between the 3 clubs there is combined total of over 260 years of history, this is not something you can erase and replace overnight with some artificial entity.
I think the best they can hope for is to be strong Championship teams, nothing more. Most players in Aus come from regional areas of the country, doesn't mean they have teams in the NRL though.
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There were only 1,200 people there today. For an international game!
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| Quote ="headhunter"Not everywhere needs Super League. Cumbria is fine as it is.'"
You reckon ? Ten years ago the West Cumbria youth leagues were thriving with at least a dozen teams at each age group. This year - U12's had a 5 team league, U14's had a 4 team league, U16's had a 4 team league. Its dying up here. Slowly, but its happening. |
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| Quote ="Derwent"You reckon ? Ten years ago the West Cumbria youth leagues were thriving with at least a dozen teams at each age group. This year - U12's had a 5 team league, U14's had a 4 team league, U16's had a 4 team league. Its dying up here. Slowly, but its happening.'" Crumbria didn't have Super League ten years ago though either. Crowds seem to be down too which is a worry, but that's not a reason for putting a team into a higher division, in fact it's the opposite. As another poster said, the best Cumbrian clubs can probably hope for is to be strong Championship sides, that's what I was getting at. Obviously they should have help with junior development etc, as should all clubs. |
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| Quote ="Derwent"You reckon ? Ten years ago the West Cumbria youth leagues were thriving with at least a dozen teams at each age group. This year - U12's had a 5 team league, U14's had a 4 team league, U16's had a 4 team league. Its dying up here. Slowly, but its happening.'"
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Quote ="Starbug"Why , Derwent ?'"
Well no doubt there are other reasons, and the malaise of the local pro clubs doesn't help, but the current RFL policy seems to be to concentrate on 'elite' players rather than to get mass participation. There is very little development going on at U8-U11 level and the mini-mod schools tournaments have stopped. The development officers are not making many friends with the amateur clubs. In fact, the RFL recently announced this new strategy...
www.northwestrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... nched.html
Not one local amateur club was consulted and I can tell you they're all dead against it, as all of the resources are going to go into an elite few rather than being used to make the game healthier overall. There's a feeling that they're just going to cream off the top talent into this programme and just not bother with the rest. |
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Quote ="Starbug"Why , Derwent ?'"
Well no doubt there are other reasons, and the malaise of the local pro clubs doesn't help, but the current RFL policy seems to be to concentrate on 'elite' players rather than to get mass participation. There is very little development going on at U8-U11 level and the mini-mod schools tournaments have stopped. The development officers are not making many friends with the amateur clubs. In fact, the RFL recently announced this new strategy...
www.northwestrugbyleague.co.uk/a ... nched.html
Not one local amateur club was consulted and I can tell you they're all dead against it, as all of the resources are going to go into an elite few rather than being used to make the game healthier overall. There's a feeling that they're just going to cream off the top talent into this programme and just not bother with the rest. | |
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If a Cumbria team was in Super League would it full of players from Cumbria. me thinks not.
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| Quote ="dids858"If a Cumbria team was in Super League would it full of players from Cumbria. me thinks not.'"
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I'd like to see it happen but the clubs are not close enough
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The clubs would never ' merge ' , so the only way would be if one club managed to achieve all that was needed on it's own , it is unlikely
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| Quote ="Starbug"The clubs would never ' merge ' , so the only way would be if one club managed to achieve all that was needed on it's own , it is unlikely'"
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"icon_surprised.gif Why are you on a thread about Super League????!!!!!!!!'"
Because people are discussing what Championship clubs and their fans,owners should do |
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I suppose we could have a unified Cumbrian team playing in SL with the current teams there, they could play games on Sundays as double-headers, have 'group' season tickets where you could watch Barrow/Whitehave/Workington on Sunday when they aren't playing at home, duel registrations etc, it would take a little thinking about, but it's a way of keeping Worky, Haven and Barrow in the League and have representation in SL
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The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.
A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.
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| Quote ="Odem"The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.
A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.'"
A stadium is irrelevant if you haven't got the fans to put in it
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| Quote ="Starbug"A stadium is irrelevant if you haven't got the fans to put in it
As for others , how many clubs do you think they can fit in SL ?'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"A stadium is irrelevant if you haven't got the fans to put in it
As for others , how many clubs do you think they can fit in SL ?'"
I would rather see less teams in the league. We only have 5 or 6 clubs who are worthy of the word 'super'.
I judge teams outside of super league next to the teams in super league. A cumbrian team in a good stadium could get better crowds than Quins or Crusaders did this year. With a decent youth set up they could produce bags of players. |
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| Quote ="Odem"I would rather see less teams in the league. We only have 5 or 6 clubs who are worthy of the word 'super'.
I judge teams outside of super league next to the teams in super league. A cumbrian team in a good stadium could get better crowds than Quins or Crusaders did this year. With a decent youth set up they could produce bags of players.'"
So could Leigh , and Fax , and Fev ,
They already produce bags of players , and now SL clubs snap them up in return for a bag of sweets , see Derwents post earlier , that isn't being done for Haven,Barrow and Workingtons benefit |
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Not big enough to be sustainable. It's pretty much recognised that you need to be up around the 10k crowd mark these days to have an income in SL that will allow you to spend full cap and break even.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So could Leigh , and Fax , and Fev ,
They already produce bags of players , and now SL clubs snap them up in return for a bag of sweets , see Derwents post earlier , that isn't being done for Haven,Barrow and Workingtons benefit'"
I don't see the benefits they would bring to the league when they are so close to other super league clubs. I would rather see a cumbrian team for a wider spread league. They havn't had a super league team for years and I am sure we are losing out on plenty of potential.
My true opinion is that I would like to see a smaller league of around 10 teams... however this is about a cumbrian team. All I stated was that with a new stadium I think they could be just as good for the league as any other team.
Your usual argumentative nature and desire for Leigh to get noticed has got in the way... |
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| Quote ="suttonrobin"I think its time for the entire rugby league nation to push for it now. Its as plain as day and staring us right in the face, but no one has the balls to push it through. A draw against England last year, a very good effort today and in the nines shows they are competitive. The talent base is huge and I would be sure they would need a maximum of 5 oversees to help start them rolling. I suppose stadia would be an issue, but coulnt they use Carlisle`s Bruntun Park untill they could plan a new one. Attendances would be in the 5-6k by my reckoning.
Maybe Worky,Haven and Barrow fans would feel against, but in all honestly an app by there own respective clubs would fall short, but they could still operate,acting as feeder (hate that word!) to the S.L team.
What are your thoughts guys.'"
It makes as much sense and is as likely as FC & KR combining |
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Ah the old Cumbria merger thread. Usually started by those not from Cumbria. I think theres one knocking around on TRL right now too.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Barrows not in Cumbria is it? .'" Jesus this Irritates me. As a Barrow lad playing amateur RL [uyou do not[/u get the opportunity to represent Lancashire. Only Cumbria. I am from Barrow, I am a Cumbrian. Fck what your maps say. Fck what the dinosaurs with this is Lancashire stickers on their doors think. Cumbrian and proud, like many other South Cumbrian's |
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Quote ="Odem"The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.
A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.'"
Barrows in Lancashire and is way too far away from Haven and Worky for a merger with them to work. Look at the thousands of Carlisle fans that watch Barrow.
You're right about the merger between the two sports clubs though. I posted a similar thing on their forum viewtopic.php?f=55&t=487204
Sell the stadium that's least profitable, both move into the same ground and share the bills and overheads 50/50. |
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Quote ="Odem"The key is Barrow Raiders and Barrow FC getting together to build a stadium. If Barrow had a stadium fit for super league then I'm sure in a few years they could be worthy of a franchise.
A merger is not the way to go. I would rather see one club get in to super league and see the rest use that as a kick up the backside that it can be done.'"
Barrows in Lancashire and is way too far away from Haven and Worky for a merger with them to work. Look at the thousands of Carlisle fans that watch Barrow.
You're right about the merger between the two sports clubs though. I posted a similar thing on their forum viewtopic.php?f=55&t=487204
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Barrows in Lancashire '" no it isnt. are you blind or stupid. |
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Why are you on a thread about Super League????!!!!!!!!
