its a shame mcguire never went when the dogs were after him

he has just not progressed as a player

very talented but has gone stale in SL

thats why they should be respected even more is they have taken a pay cut to test themselves.

morley killed it in the nrl and ellis is going the same way

Well from my team i'd like Chris Thorman to go over there....ohhh wait a minute!

Don't agree with that. The last few years has seen a new McGuire. He has progressed massively from a player that backed up breaks and scored for fun to a player that is creating tries for his team mates

I agree he's progressed into a more complete player, I just think he has more in him, and a few years in the NRL could bring that out.

Unfortunately he's on a good whack at leeds and I cant see him taking a pay cut. Having said that I reckon with the pound/dollar situation at the moment it isn't as big a pay cut as it would have been in recent years, and the lifestyle over here may tempt some players to give it a go.

he has not developed into a 6.

In your opinion. In mine, he has.

Not a top quality 6 I agree Dally.

Why do so many fans pigeon hole a player by the jersey he wears, particularly in the halves?

Isn't the important thing that you pair your half backs correctly so they complement each other and the team works well as a result?

If you paired McGuire with a Langer-style organiser at 7 he'd go just fine in the NRL at 6. Putting him with the likes of Marshall IMO would be a disaster as the two of them wouldn't cover each other's weaknesses or enhance each other's strong parts to their game.

You think the RFL should pay to make Australia's competition stronger and ours weaker?!

I can just see NRL clubs lining up to fill teams with third rate players with no understanding of the game while neglecting their own junior bases.

Ellis can't be going well at the Tigers, the Oracle that is Barry McKenzie was stating only a few days ago that Ellis would be back in England by the end of 2010 if not this season.

He is about average in the Tigers pack.


Thats not a good thing by the way.

probably their best forward, just ahead of galloway whose been injured.

..an Aussie responding to League Freak's bo**ocks is funnier than a Brit doing it....

Especially since that other aussie usually talks even bigger bo**ocks

im talking nrl here, this is the important stuff ...

ellis should get the credit he deserves.

he took a big pay cut, went to an average side and is doing very, very well.

hes a credit to your game. and shame there arent more here like im

Yeah he took a paycut, and he has slipped into the Tigers soft tackling, zero yardage pack with ease.

the same tigers who beat the cowboys last week

jeeze you dont talk nonsense

ellis has shown there is some genuine talent in SL that can do very well in the nrl

its a shame he didnt go to the storm, manly or dragons for example

Can we please have Moz back at the Roosters.

I agree that we need him, but as a Roosters and Warrington fan, my loyalties are divided here. I'd be happy either way!

Bankroll youth development through C1 .... or sending kids to Oz ... decisions decisions.

Do Australian teams want underdeveloped English players to train up?
Why would they when they also want the best available to forge into long term assets.
Ellis has done well but he is a Test player, who else has done anything other than Carney and Morley tears ago?
Mathers, Thorman, Tansey and a few that made so little impact that they never played first grade before slipping back to England.

The same Cowboys the Panthers beat at home without a few of our best players?

Yes.