A hard nosed NRL coach, who’s worked in elite environments over the last twenty years, makes a decision on a player. I’m comfortable with whatever conclusion he reaches.

[quote="Irregs#16":artqn8jz]It is a really odd one. The way he is built, perhaps doesn't lend itself to this injury not repeating itself? Or, it could be what Myler was alluding to last week, the December 1st deadline for players beginning talks, and he was going to leave at the end of the year, so we thought we would release him a year early.[/quote:artqn8jz] ACL injuries are not about your build ( I work in the injury profession) There’s a lot of speculation about why he’s going but the most obvious one is that he wants to. That would be a good reason to release him. Like most my feeling is that he’d have done well for us but if he’s not fully committed then we need him to go. As people have said we need to trust the coaches

I’m a little disappointed that a young talent has left but like most others on here , I’m happy to go with myler and Cartwrights opinion’s on the matter . Good luck to him at cas

Disappointing as he's a decent prospect, however I'd guess he's signed elsewhere for next year and isn't fit enough to play yet, maybe for some time so the club feel he's not worth keeping around. Maupybe he has or hasn't looked after himself enough, we'll probably never know the truth but leaches another hole in an already small squad

[quote="Dave K.":2537uw0r]Club have confirmed it. Think this might come back to bite us. Not surprisingly a nothing statement. Leaves us very short in the backrow.[/quote:2537uw0r] Can't believe we intend going with only 3 second rows! Holmes - seems very delicate/injury prone Carwright - didn't he have a recurring foot injury when he joined us? seems to miss a fair few games. Lane - would have been binned years ago if it wasn't for his ridiculous contract. Front & centre of the `can't be d brigade', been regular for years simply because we've had no one else of note. His stats were usually atrocious, but predictably improving now his contract is coming to an end. Unusually (for us) most of our top youngsters seem to be backs.The only forwards i've seen who've looked like making the grade are Balmforth & Stavely - the others, - nowhere near first team material Hopefully Myler will surprise us with a quality replacement for Stavely, but i'm not holding my breath

If the tag line is that Staveley was down the pecking line, then we should only be signing someone who is better and maybe more experienced than him. Still disappointing, I know there are two sides to a story, but it does sound like he wanted to stay and fight for his place (even moved to Hull), but the club didn't want him. It won't happen, but would love the club to come out and say why he was released, we have had alot of abuse directed our way from previous players, would be good to fight back a bit.

I see that Waimhouse has posted overnight on Instagram his images of him in each kit. Perhaps he's moved up the pecking order, potential back rower?

[quote="The Dentist Wilf":365hps89]It's not just about a coaches judgement on how you play or train but about your whole application to the career and the group. You toe the line follow the instructions and get your head down with Cartwright, or your out, the coaches and physios do their bit but the players have to do theirs, that's what one of the assistant coaches told me weeks ago on this subject. And so it has been!! This is not just strong action, but also a lesson for the rest I guess![/quote:365hps89] That's about as close to the truth as I think we'll get and it's what we've been crying out for. 100% professionalism. No exceptions and let's get rid of the culture of mediocrity we've become entrenched in.

Just read an article saying some club owners are plotting to overthrow the head of the RFL and install Nigel Wood in temporary charge, is it April 1st??!! This game loves machine gunning it's foot

[quote="Dave K.":1mc7ahlh]If the tag line is that Staveley was down the pecking line, then we should only be signing someone who is better and maybe more experienced than him. Still disappointing, I know there are two sides to a story, but it does sound like he wanted to stay and fight for his place (even moved to Hull), but the club didn't want him. It won't happen, but would love the club to come out and say why he was released, we have had alot of abuse directed our way from previous players, would be good to fight back a bit.[/quote:1mc7ahlh] There are legal/HR implications for saying anything these days. Generally employers now just give references with dates you were employed and that is that, for fear of reprisals later.

Cartwright suggesting in Hull Live that he only was involved in signing Cust, Rapana and Sezer which isn't a surprise. If some of the others don't perform he may be saying to Andrew 'speak to your son in law' then...

[quote="UllFC":2qyms6d5]Just read an article saying some club owners are plotting to overthrow the head of the RFL and install Nigel Wood in temporary charge, is it April 1st??!! This game loves machine gunning it's foot[/quote:2qyms6d5] The fact that you didn`t name the current CEO of the RFL and called him: "The Head Of The RFL", says it all.....scarcely anyone outside the City of Hull knows who he is! Maybe some Hull FC fans don`t know either?

[quote="BOSS HOG":f7l0a685]The fact that you didn`t name the current CEO of the RFL and called him: "The Head Of The RFL", says it all.....scarcely anyone outside the City of Hull knows who he is! Maybe some Hull FC fans don`t know either?[/quote:f7l0a685] Presume you're meaning Tony Sutton (of Hull)? The article suggests it's the RFL chair, Simon Johnson, who they are looking to replace.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ey-9935799 A little bit more about Staveley from Cartwright. Hardly an exclusive insight, just more of a statement of the matter being closed seemingly. Not sure we'll find out much more from the clubs side.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ey-9935799 A little bit more about Staveley from Cartwright. Hardly an exclusive insight, just more of a statement of the matter being closed seemingly. Not sure we'll find out much more from the clubs side.

[quote="UllFC":2ff0ys47]Cartwright suggesting in Hull Live that he only was involved in signing Cust, Rapana and Sezer which isn't a surprise. If some of the others don't perform he may be saying to Andrew 'speak to your son in law' then...[/quote:2ff0ys47] To be fair you could easily flip it the other way. All our overseas signings have a previous connection to Cartwright it was obvious he’s picked the quota players. All due respect to Sezer and Cust, I don’t think they’d have been the club or Mylers ideal choice of a halfback pairing, and you could argue that a specialist centre would have been preferable to Rapana but the strategy has been players Cartwright knows well and trusts and the club have gone with that. If the quota players don’t perform for whatever reason it will be on him.