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| I thought the adverts were cringeworthy, but I think that about a lot of Sky's presentation.
It makes perfect sense though, if part of the 'package' that kept Sam in the game was attempting to ensure that he receives as much personal media promotion as he might get in the other code. Unfortunately, there just aren't many TV openings for that kind of publicity in RL (I've seen Andy Farrell on telly more often since he went to union than when he was at Wigan, just because he's usually in the background for Saracens and England RU reports on the BBC sport) and, essentially, Sky is the only national option (that's not on at 3.15am everywhere but the North).
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| Were there all these complaints when Sculthorpe was paid by Gillette, or when Burrow and Sinfield appear on The Superleague Show,.
Maybe they would prefer Peacock, and Roby who can't string two coherent sentences together to be given the gig.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Were there all these complaints when Sculthorpe was paid by Gillette, or when Burrow and Sinfield appear on The Superleague Show,.
Maybe they would prefer Peacock, and Roby who can't string two coherent sentences together to be given the gig.'"
God help us if Peacock ever gets a job like this when he finishes, its embarrassing enough watching his interviews.
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| Don't get the massive problem for everyone, he might not be likeable to all, I reckon hes just a normal young bloke and I'm pleased he's doing well, I wonder how this deal came about though
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| It was brilliant. Sam is the face of RL according to Eddie. He is exactly the kind of star we need to sell the game.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Sadly I'm one of few people in Wigan that support the football team as well as the rugby. I say sadly but then I'm proud that I support my local teams which isn't always the norm in football.
TBH the Neville comments are based more on what I'm told by friends rather then what little I've seen. I've got mates who support Liverpool and City and they've been suprised how un-biased he's been.'"
I apologise for any offence caused by saying you was a Man Utd fan then
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| I like Sam so I'm pleased about this.
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| 6.30 tonight to see how sam does
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| Quote ="21-12"God help us if Peacock ever gets a job like this when he finishes, its embarrassing enough watching his interviews.'"
Peacock is actually a pretty articulate bloke. Its just the sound of his voice that make him sound thick.
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| Quote
Peacock is actually a pretty articulate bloke. Its just the sound of his voice that make him sound thick.'"
It is him being thick that makes him sound thick
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| Quote ="21-12"God help us if Peacock ever gets a job like this when he finishes, its embarrassing enough watching his interviews.'"
Why is it embarassing? It's RL, not QI.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Why is it embarassing? It's RL, not QI.'"
But the two are not mutually exclusive. However, Peacock reinforces the stereotype that they are.
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| Quote ="east stander"icon_lol.gif It is him being thick that makes him sound thick'"
Peacock is far from thick. If you speak to him he is very knowledgeable and highly articulate. He's an excellent public speaker, he just has a thick sounding accent.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Peacock is far from thick. If you speak to him he is very knowledgeable and highly articulate. He's an excellent public speaker, he just has a thick sounding accent.'"
I know fellow Wigan fans who are knowledgable about all kinds of things, that doesn't mean they would come across well on TV to neutral viewers with their thick Wigan accents.
It is bad enough having Baz and Tez on sky.
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| Quote ="Odem"I know fellow Wigan fans who are knowledgable about all kinds of things, that doesn't mean they would come across well on TV to neutral viewers with their thick Wigan accents.
It is bad enough having Baz and Tez on sky.'"
True, his accent could be considered a draw back. But he is a very inspirational speaker, I think it would be easy to see past the accent.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Peacock is far from thick. If you speak to him he is very knowledgeable and highly articulate. He's an excellent public speaker, he just has a thick sounding accent.'"
This. Spoke to him on the phone a couple of weeks ago for an interview (which was heavily publicised on here) and although he has a kind of broad accent, he is very knowledgeable about the game
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"But the two are not mutually exclusive. However, Peacock reinforces the stereotype that they are.'"
I don't believe it does.
RL is played (and watched) predominantly by working class lads from the North - it could be argued that JP represents the honesty, integrity and working class roots of the game and as such, is an excellent ambassador for the sport.
I'm all for widening the appeal of the game, but suggesting that we should hide those people involved who have a northern accent from public view is not the way to achieve it.
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| The Tomkins section of the 'Super Men' show was pretty embarrassing IMO. He was really wooden, especially at the start. The worst thing about it was that he was clearly making glances at a script on the table in front of him throughout the interview! Sky could have at least tried to disguise this or use a teleprompter. He did seem to relax a bit more towards the end though.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"The Tomkins section of the 'Super Men' show was pretty embarrassing IMO. He was really wooden, especially at the start. The worst thing about it was that he was clearly making glances at a script on the table in front of him throughout the interview! Sky could have at least tried to disguise this or use a teleprompter. He did seem to relax a bit more towards the end though.'"
Give over! What do you expect on a show like this?
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"The Tomkins section of the 'Super Men' show was pretty embarrassing IMO. He was really wooden, especially at the start. The worst thing about it was that he was clearly making glances at a script on the table in front of him throughout the interview! Sky could have at least tried to disguise this or use a teleprompter. He did seem to relax a bit more towards the end though.'"
It's called a prompt sheet, and you'll find pretty much every interviewer and presenter uses them.
I thought he was very good, especially for his first spot. The interview flowed more like a conversation and both were relaxed - it wasn't just unsubtle question-answer-question-answer. He didn't seem fazed by speaking directly into the camera and was confident in what he was saying.
Compare that to Carney's first awkward efforts and Sam was good last night. Hardly embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"The Tomkins section of the 'Super Men' show was pretty embarrassing IMO. He was really wooden, especially at the start. The worst thing about it was that he was clearly making glances at a script on the table in front of him throughout the interview! Sky could have at least tried to disguise this or use a teleprompter. He did seem to relax a bit more towards the end though.'"
Eddie and stevo often have the sheet in their hands at sky games!
Sam will relax more, I thought he did ok considering its the first time he has done anything like that. He will only get better.
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| Quote ="Cronus"It's called a prompt sheet, and you'll find pretty much every interviewer and presenter uses them.
I thought he was very good, especially for his first spot. The interview flowed more like a conversation and both were relaxed - it wasn't just unsubtle question-answer-question-answer. He didn't seem fazed by speaking directly into the camera and was confident in what he was saying.
Compare that to Carney's first awkward efforts and Sam was good last night. Hardly embarrassing.'"
I agree with this. I actually thought Tomkins did very well and he and Burrow looked very comfortable. I enjoyed it. As an aside, I usually rarely watch SL Supermen but I did last night and not because of McGuire, because I wanted to see how Sam went (maybe I was a hoping a teeny bit he would be terrible).
Carney is excellent now, btw. I thought he handled the Phil Clarke issue with Mcguire bluntly, honestly and without sensationalism.
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| Correct, Carney is really good now. His Irish accent adds to the relaced atmosphere, you never really feel unconfortable watching him. He handled the Phil Clarke issue really well taking his own personal ties out of the situation.
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| I think Tomkins comes across quite well on the telebox.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I don't believe it does.
RL is played (and watched) predominantly by working class lads from the North - it could be argued that JP represents the honesty, integrity and working class roots of the game and as such, is an excellent ambassador for the sport.'"
He's the first person I've heard use the word 'pugnacious' to describe a fellow player.
I bet half of those calling him thick have no idea what that even means.
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