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| You can't really FORCE testosterone filled young men to interact if they really really don't want to.
Knob 'em off and get Shenton, Hudson, Westerman, Deacon, Yeaman, etc in for the four nations.
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| Quote ="Geekay"We stayed in the team hotel for 2 days at Newcastle (the Executive Inn) and it was obvious to us in that short time that there was a problem with Saints and Leeds players not mixing. However, Richard Lewis and Nigel Wood and other RFL officials were with the players throughout the tour and if they couldn't see what was happening then they should be sacked.'"
To be fair to Dickie and big Nige they were probably there in an official and representative capacity as opposed to having any direct input regarding team affairs.
Do we still have a tour manger like we had in the past with Phil Lowe and Abi Ekoku?
I'm not certain but I'd guess that's something that the job entailed.
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| That's what you get when you chose 80% of the squad from two teams. i think the "minnows" of the tournament showed us what team bonding can do to overcome lack of talent! Scotland were a great example.
Not as bad as some stories from the old days. I remember hearing about David Bishop smacking an Oldham forward in the lift of the PNG hotel!
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| it seems leon pryce was aware of this back in 2006 on the tri nations tour..
type leon pryce into 'that' popular video site
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| What happened to all the stories before the World Cup
"there are no cliques in this squad"
Solution - forget the failures at Saints and Leeds and look for the quality English players who fill the rest of Super League
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| what stories about no cliques?
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| I must be reading a different article to you lot, Senior said “[iThere was a big divide - so many Saints players and so many Leeds players and we didn't gel on the field which was a big disappointment[/i”
We didn’t win the comp because our individuals are not as good as the opposition, If anyone thinks that Wellens would be faster if he roomed with Peacock or that McGuire could open up the aussies if he roomed with Graham is just deluded.
Ian Laybourn needed an “angle” for this story and that’s about it for mine.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I must be reading a different article to you lot, Senior said “[iThere was a big divide - so many Saints players and so many Leeds players and we didn't gel on the field which was a big disappointment[/i”
We didn’t win the comp because our individuals are not as good as the opposition, If anyone thinks that Wellens would be faster if he roomed with Peacock or that McGuire could open up the aussies if he roomed with Graham is just deluded.
Ian Laybourn needed an “angle” for this story and that’s about it for mine.'"
my view entirely
there may or may not have been an issue between the Leeds and Saints players, but that article adds the sum total of zero to the discussion - doesn't even touch on the topic at all
and yet here we are, several pages in
roll on the shooting war starting this weekend..
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| Quote ="Steve-O"Why can't players just put aside their club rivalries - like the fans do (or try to atleast) theyre supposed to be representing England and have nothing to do with their super league clubs when on international duty!'"
who said it's simply a matter of putting aside club loyalties?
despite what some people might claim leeds and saints play very different games and when they both come together it's hard to gell them.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I must be reading a different article to you lot, Senior said “[iThere was a big divide - so many Saints players and so many Leeds players and we didn't gel on the field which was a big disappointment[/i”
We didn’t win the comp because our individuals are not as good as the opposition, If anyone thinks that Wellens would be faster if he roomed with Peacock or that McGuire could open up the aussies if he roomed with Graham is just deluded.
Ian Laybourn needed an “angle” for this story and that’s about it for mine.'"
There you go, bringing common sense and actually reading the blasted thing into it. How dare you get in the way of a good old fashioned witch hunt with our new fangled ideas of actually understanding the text in front you.
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| We stayed in the same hotel as the players in Townsville, and it was quite obvious then that they were split into three groups, Leeds, Saints and the others.
However I don't believe for one minute that that was the only reason England performed so poorly but IMO it was a contributing factor.
Taking only one fullback and only four prop forwards certainly didn't help, and neither did taking two of the biggest offenders for conceding penalties.
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| Quote ="McClennan"Close. It's a pic of tb from the 60s.'"
I know tb was in zulu dawn, but I never realised he was in Gladiator as well
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| England RL, I think, needs to learn a LOT about team management because this is just ammaturish.
Winning and losing at the very top is a matter of millimetres and microseconds and to allow such a major part of the team building to be simply left to luck is simply unnaceptable.
Team selection failed.
Team management failed.
Tour failed.
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| The more this goes on the more I'm starting to think England's poor performances can be attributed to it being "that time of the month".
I mean, what are they, a bunch of teenage girls or something?
And the idea that two little clubs in northern England just couldnt gel, please. Take a look at other teams at the World Cup and how many different clubs, states and countries they had to get to gel together.....its laughable to suggest that England was fighting against some great burden no one else had!
At the end of the day, all those players that were so important to be involved in inter club bickering which playing for England had one thing in common. They couldn't play Rugby League to save their lives.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"The more this goes on the more I'm starting to think England's poor performances can be attributed to it being "that time of the month".
I mean, what are they, a bunch of teenage girls or something?
And the idea that two little clubs in northern England just couldnt gel, please. Take a look at other teams at the World Cup and how many different clubs, states and countries they had to get to gel together.....its laughable to suggest that England was fighting against some great burden no one else had!
At the end of the day, all those players that were so important to be involved in inter club bickering which playing for England had one thing in common. They couldn't play Rugby League to save their lives.'"
We miss you JEAN CAPDOUZE.
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| Quote ="RLRealist"We miss you JEAN CAPDOUZE.
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Miss him like Chlamydia maybe
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Miss him like Chlamydia
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| Dragged a 9 year old thread up to assume Jean was another poster.
Just look back to yesterdays posts for that.
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| League Freak whatever happened to him!!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"League Freak whatever happened to him!!'"
He is here........
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| In which guise
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Dragged a 9 year old thread up to assume Jean was another poster.
Just look back to yesterdays posts for that.'"
Did that offend you snowflake?
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| Not really, you must have been bored trolling through 9 year old topics just for that, but at least it keeps you off the streets.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Not really, you must have been bored trolling through 9 year old topics just for that, but at least it keeps you off the streets.'"
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Not really, you must have been bored trolling through 9 year old topics just for that, but at least it keeps you off the streets.'"
You definition of the term trolling leaves much to be desired. Have you ever considered your own posts and responses or do [iyou[/i live in a parallel universe I wonder?
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