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| Quick, traffic, rich lets all start talking crud and hopefully knock them two off their game.
Like, seriously, get a hobby guys
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| Quote ="littlerich"I see that you're a Crusaders fan?
Put the mouse down and step away from this thread.
Nothing to see here
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By the look of it nothing to see anywhere unless I move to Wrexham
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| Quote ="Dico"Quick, traffic, rich lets all start talking crud and hopefully knock them two off their game.
Like, seriously, get a hobby guys'"
Fine but no streaking !!
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| Quote ="Traffic"By the look of it nothing to see anywhere unless I move to Wrexham
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The further North you move, the happier you will be. The M62 corridor is calling you like the Bermuda Triangle
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| Quote ="littlerich"The further North you move, the happier you will be. The M62 corridor is calling you like the Bermuda Triangle
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Funnily enough, lately I've even started thinking about wearing a flat cap
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On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.
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On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The franchise policy will never see legal scrutiny, a simple clause in bidding stating that by bidding you accept the RFLs/SLs decision as final would put a stop to that quite quickly'"
But can you deny a team a SL license and replace them with one using different criteria? That may see legal scrutiny.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"besides it wasnt, never has been, and likely never will be, that clubs who dont play in the Championship or NRC need to win or get to a championship/NRC GF to be able to bid'"
So what you're saying is if you are in the Championship or the NRC and want to be in the SL but don't think you'll meet the stated criteria then the best idea is to just drop out of the league? I don't really think that is the message the RFL are trying to send here, do you?
Quote ="SmokeyTA"
it doesnt, it argues against your own point,
if the in 1895 RL didnt exist, yet all the clubs who joined the NRFU were semi-pro, so 11 years later, when they were still semi-pro and they created a new sport RL, then they were never amateur RL sides were they? they were semi-pro RL sides who became pro RL sides but who were ultimately born of semi-pro RU sides who were a fair amount of time previously amateur RU sides
though again, this is irrellevant as what i actually said was there hasnt been one in more than 80 years, Castleford were the last ones to do it in 36 (i think) the last amateur side to be admitted to the semi-pro ranks was the skolars in 2002, and as far as i am aware there was no club in between those two'"
No, in 1895, the RFL didn't exist. We are an evolution from rugby union. We started off playing their laws. The clubs were amateur before they turned semi-pro playing the same identical sport, whether they were governed by the RFL/NRFU or the RFU is irrelevant. They were amateur before they went semi-pro, and semi-pro before they went fully pro.
As for irrelevant, your 80 year time line is pointless. Amateur rugby league was a dying breed prior to the 70s. And after 96, amateur rugby league was played in a different season. There are hindering factors as to why there has been slow progress and the system must be looked at.
I don't understand how you can argue that the top-down system is the best because there are no example of the bottom-up system working, when there are no examples of the top-down system working in this country, and 11 out of 14 SL clubs came from the bottom-up method.
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Quote ="Derwent"On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.'"
Do you have a link for when Wood said about the NRC winners and Grand Final winners being allowed to apply? I can't find it.
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Quote ="Derwent"On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.'"
Do you have a link for when Wood said about the NRC winners and Grand Final winners being allowed to apply? I can't find it.
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| Quote ="tb"synaesthesia?'"
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| Quote ="bowes"I suggest you read that lying pathetic troll
UTC beat Toulouse 66-16 the year before they joined SL (Toulouse is the venue if you bothered to read it) and the year before St Gaudens beat UTC 14-10 as I said. If you read the scores in not one of the years you highlighted did Toulouse win the Elite
I expect a full apology for your unjustified abuse twice. Toulouse have not won the French Elite since 2000-01 (I think, it just calls it 2000) as that list very very very very clearly states if you bothered to read it rather than just quote a part without the headings'"
To be fair bowes, he never said they did.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"I wonder who UTC beat in 2005 to win the French Elite?'"
Quote ="bowes"St Gaudens (which is near Toulouse I'll give you, though the French Elite was better then than it is now)'"
Quote ="SmokeyTA"nope, it was Toulouse, '"
He said who UTC beat, not who beat UTC. He said that UTC beat Toulouse in 2005, which your stats show.
An unfortunate mis-read for you there.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The franchise policy will never see legal scrutiny, a simple clause in bidding stating that by bidding you accept the RFLs/SLs decision as final would put a stop to that quite quickly
besides it wasnt, never has been, and likely never will be, that clubs who dont play in the Championship or NRC need to win or get to a championship/NRC GF to be able to bid
it doesnt, it argues against your own point,
if the in 1895 RL didnt exist, yet all the clubs who joined the NRFU were semi-pro, so 11 years later, when they were still semi-pro and they created a new sport RL, then they were never amateur RL sides were they? they were semi-pro RL sides who became pro RL sides but who were ultimately born of semi-pro RU sides who were a fair amount of time previously amateur RU sides
though again, this is irrellevant as what i actually said was there hasnt been one in more than 80 years, Castleford were the last ones to do it in 36 (i think) the last amateur side to be admitted to the semi-pro ranks was the skolars in 2002, and as far as i am aware there was no club in between those two'"
Close it was 1926.
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| Quote ="tb"synaesthesia?'"
Is that another word for bull sh i t ?
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| Quote ="littlerich"That's their problem, why are you getting so hung up about how ridiculous they may look?'"
im thinking they need a mirror.
im here to help
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| Quote ="Starbug"Maybe it's because having visited Bridgend on more than one occaision and spoken with the locals , both RL fans and non RL fans , seen the facilities , witnessed the crowds , got opinions from potential new fans of the owner , basically actually been there , we do have some experience
And then Toulouse , Having visited the place , so on , so on
Where have you gained your opinions from ?'"
so you talk to 3 fans and they told you the clubs are going broke
thats the research?
heck you couldve saved teh RFL a whole lot of money last time the franchise applications were made.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Do the 30 odd thousand sydney swans fans agree with that?
Or the 15 thousand sydney soccer fans?
What about all the cricket fans?'"
RL is the dominant football code in sydney by a long, long way.
is RL the dominant football code by a similar margin in yorkshire?
hell no
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"I'd say that was partly true. Toulouse had just finished 7th in the French league and I would imagine that this entered into the RFL's thoughts.
Even so I think they might have made a better fist of it than Crusaders.
You really ought to put such faith in the RFL though, they have a proven track record of making dreadful decisions regarding expansion clubs. They would be better off flipping a coin instead because then at least they might be right half the time.'"
measuring the current RFL administrators with everyother person running your game before hand, lewis by a country mile, though lindsay was good as well.
the rest did nothing and hence the sport decayed.
richard lewis has delivered on a whole range of things that were difficult and controversial but ultimately for the good of the game
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Do you think bowes' definition of Coventry "not being ready" for NL2 / CC! is an excuse because he doesn't want to see them polluting that league with their nasty midlands ways or that he genuinely thinks he might result in the death of the club that he is involved with?'"
so because he helps out a minor expansion club he cant be a flatcapper in other areas eh?
i have a number of criteria to judge people as to whether they satisfy the criteria, and he/she ticks every box
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"As well as West Cumbria, Oldham, Keighley etc.
@dally
Toulouse from what I hear, are good enough off the field and have the support base to make a success of it. Just right now they don't have the onfield stuff right but I think given enough time they will.'"
im not saying they are a heartland club
the same people who say they were apparently fans of Les Cats in SL because they were a heartland club then must also be fans of toulose for the same reason
thats the thing about being logical. it exposes all these holes in peoples arguments
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Quote ="Derwent"On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.'"
and if the RFL decide to grant an additional spot in SL other than the one that satisfies the criteria, whats to stop them doing that for toulose?
nuthin
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Quote ="Derwent"On the subject of Toulouse, can we just clarify once and for all that the RFL have clearly stated that the same rules apply to them as all other clubs in terms of eligibility to apply for a licence.......
www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628
Rumour has it that there's to be a French group in the NRC too this year, which will obviously enhance their chances.'"
and if the RFL decide to grant an additional spot in SL other than the one that satisfies the criteria, whats to stop them doing that for toulose?
nuthin
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| why is calling someone a flat capper so derogatory?
if the cap fits?
and i most certainly aint trolling. if i can make my point at the same time as take the mickey out of people i think are grossly biased ill do so.
im all in favour of expansion
i was very happy when LEs Cats came into SL. unlike certain people on here, i didnt have the degree of confidence they had about their success. when they finished last and people said that there were large debts and players werent being paid, i worried. but apparently these same people who said that always had confidence.
i was very happy when CC were admitted, though am a little worried about how its turning out. but then again there are clubs like leigh, wakey and salford who have disappointed me even more
and if toulose get into SL ill be over the moon
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| Quote ="dally messenger":10lk0mcficon_lol.gif
so you talk to 3 fans and they told you the clubs are going broke
thats the research?
heck you couldve saved teh RFL a whole lot of money last time the franchise applications were made.'" who did not even know that a RL club existed in Bridgend and even the ones that did were not very complimentary of Mr Samuels and his history with the RU club , How many people in Bridgend have you spoken to ?
I also personnally know some of the players and have spoken to the management on occaision as well , how many of them have you spoken to ?
HTH
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| Quote ="Starbug"On the 2 visits to Bridgend and the 2 Celtic visits to Leigh I spoke to most of their fans , How many have you spoke to ?
On the 2 visits to Bridgend I spoke to lots of people [ not fans who did not even know that a RL club existed in Bridgend and even the ones that did were not very complimentary of Mr Samuels and his history with the RU club , How many people in Bridgend have you spoken to ?
I also personnally know some of the players and have spoken to the management on occaision as well , how many of them have you spoken to ?
HTH'"
Your grandkids eh Starbug?
oookay i'll quit with the old jokes now
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| Quote ="dally messenger"RL is the dominant football code in sydney by a long, long way.
is RL the dominant football code by a similar margin in yorkshire?
hell no'"
Unlikely considering Football is the dominant code in 80 % of the world
RL is the dominant code in Sydney
Not much room for expansion then is there by your reckoning
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| Quote ="dally messenger"why is calling someone a flat capper so derogatory?
if the cap fits?
and i most certainly aint trolling. if i can make my point at the same time as take the mickey out of people i think are grossly biased ill do so.
im all in favour of expansion
i was very happy when LEs Cats came into SL. unlike certain people on here, i didnt have the degree of confidence they had about their success. when they finished last and people said that there were large debts and players werent being paid, i worried. but apparently these same people who said that always had confidence.
i was very happy when CC were admitted, though am a little worried about how its turning out. but then again there are clubs like leigh, wakey and salford who have disappointed me even more
and if toulose get into SL ill be over the moon'"
Why who have you spoken to , to know what is happening at the Crusaders ?
Or is the sum total of your knowledge from this MB ?
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im all in favour of expansion
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So you support that a team from PNG or Perth should be the next two teams in the NRL then, Before and other teams on the east coast of Australia?
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