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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Ken Maumalo was the Dally M Winger of 2019.'"
Thankyou for correcting my spelling on Kenneth's surname.
Just to let you know that you spelt Steven McNamara's surname incorrectly on another thread.
The Mc is devoid of an 'a'.
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| Our tactics and style of play has been APPALLING!
We haven’t played with any intensity in any of the three first halves we’ve played.
We are eye wateringly boring to watch.
The tactics this morning when we were camped on the Kiwi line for three sets, where our half backs were not involved until the final play of each set and we just gave the ball to our forwards to run in and run in and run in at the line, has to be a sackable offence on its own for Bennett.
Absolutely TERRIBLE!
Get Bennet OUT... NOW!
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The try by Joshua Hodgson showed the wisdom of Wayne Bennett's selection of the Canberra hooker.
People need to stop the Wayne Bennett bashing. The former policeman is in the Clint Eastwood mould, and he certainly knows what he is doing.'"
He’s the most boring and one dimensional player in the squad. Arguably been the least effective player on the tour. He doesn’t do anything to attract defenders before making a pass, all of his teammates hang back when he gets to dummy half because they just expect a straight up pass from DH or three steps and a pass. We are never on the front foot when he’s on the pitch. He’s a safe, consistent, boring, ineffective player.
He doesn’t create space, he doesn’t attack space, he doesn’t create panic, he doesn’t create confusion as the defence know exactly what he’s going to do, he doesn’t create positive play. He’s just safe.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"He’s the most boring and one dimensional player in the squad. Arguably been the least effective player on the tour. He doesn’t do anything to attract defenders before making a pass, all of his teammates hang back when he gets to dummy half because they just expect a straight up pass from DH or three steps and a pass. We are never on the front foot when he’s on the pitch. He’s a safe, consistent, boring, ineffective player.
He doesn’t create space, he doesn’t attack space, he doesn’t create panic, he doesn’t create confusion as the defence know exactly what he’s going to do, he doesn’t create positive play. He’s just safe.'"
Which is why the use of Clark is inexcusable
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"He’s the most boring and one dimensional player in the squad. Arguably been the least effective player on the tour. He doesn’t do anything to attract defenders before making a pass, all of his teammates hang back when he gets to dummy half because they just expect a straight up pass from DH or three steps and a pass. We are never on the front foot when he’s on the pitch. He’s a safe, consistent, boring, ineffective player.
He doesn’t create space, he doesn’t attack space, he doesn’t create panic, he doesn’t create confusion as the defence know exactly what he’s going to do, he doesn’t create positive play. He’s just safe.'"
And how many points did we score with Roby in the WC final team? What a difference Clark made today also, right? Or maybe it’s just the poor players around him? Another one who only watches SL.
Same as always, our hb pairings are weak in comparison to the teams down under along with most of the back line.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Our tactics and style of play has been APPALLING!
We haven’t played with any intensity in any of the three first halves we’ve played.
We are eye wateringly boring to watch.
The tactics this morning when we were camped on the Kiwi line for three sets, where our half backs were not involved until the final play of each set and we just gave the ball to our forwards to run in and run in and run in at the line, has to be a sackable offence on its own for Bennett.
Absolutely TERRIBLE!
Get Bennet OUT... NOW!'"
That was shocking.
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| I've see Hodgson's entire career, everything about him has always been average. slow passes from DH, never runs from DH, and is no more than an OK defender.
He's been excellent for Canberra, but at the highest level, his average skill set gets exposed.
Clark's 20 minutes last week was better than anything Hodgson has ever produced at this level.
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| It’s not like we didn’t expect it.
2 scoots, 2 drives and a ballsup on the last, we’ve had that all your.
His negative tactics makes me want to take out my eyeballs and grate them with a Parmesan cheese grater.
Rugby League is in a state of flux, we are in the entertainment business whereas the coaches are in the results business and one cannot be sacrificed for the sake of the other.
I’ve followed rugby league since the age of 6 and I live my life my it but SL and the international games are turning me off. I’d much rather watch a game from 15 years ago where there was skill, passion and intensity in every international.
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| Our forwards worked hard, they are grafters, however with the exception of Bateman, theres no aggression. If NZ want to employ Maguire tactics at the ruck, it's down to the GB forwards to prevent them doing it. Where have all the nut cases gone?
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| Quote ="post"It’s not like we didn’t expect it.
2 scoots, 2 drives and a ballsup on the last, we’ve had that all your.
His negative tactics makes me want to take out my eyeballs and grate them with a Parmesan cheese grater.
Rugby League is in a state of flux, we are in the entertainment business whereas the coaches are in the results business and one cannot be sacrificed for the sake of the other.
I’ve followed rugby league since the age of 6 and I live my life my it but SL and the international games are turning me off. I’d much rather watch a game from 15 years ago where there was skill, passion and intensity in every international.'"
You can have both. They are not mutually exclusive.
Losing a test match isn't a criminal offense but there is a way to lose and the way GB have lost the last 3 test matches has been nothing short of terrible.
NZ didn't have to work hard for the win today. Their defensive line was barely challenged. Throwing the ball around just for the sake of it isn't what people want but it's not too much to ask for some actual ball movement, clever lines being run and two half backs who are allowed to actually take a risk.
Playing centre for GB/England is pointless as you won't get the ball.
There was an example where GB got a scrum 20 metres out and one would think they would actually have a set play to attack from such an advantageous position but no, nothing.
All coaches need to be put on alert that 5 drives and a kick isn't cutting it. I don't know what it's like at Jnr levels but one has to ask the question on why does this county fail to produce genuine world class halfbacks and fullbacks?
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| Hodgson is *not* a bad player.He is a very good one for his club. So unless all the Aussie players, ex-players, Dally M guys etc don't know what they are talking about...And actually, I thought Hodgson had a better game than in the last match FWIW.
But as I've said before, if he and Bennett between them can't make it work at international level, then it's up to the coach to pick someone else more suited to his tactics. Whatever his tactics are, cos I saw no sign of any kind of a plan. As other posters have noted, no sign of any set plays when we got into the strike zone.
Widdop for me is another one who seldom offers much in an England/GB shirt. Kicking game poor, and never imposed himself. It comes to something when Austin, despite playing out of position, dropping a high ball, and butchering a score, was still one of our more effective players.
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| Well, we had 3 halves in the starting line up that were produced outside this country, but they look as bad as the much maligned Sean Long, Danny McGuire or Kevin Sinfield ever did, so I'm sure the problem is necessarily the halves.
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| I honestly think Bennett has given up the ghost with this tour and for the team to play like they have, it’s a disgrace to the shirt and if he had anything about him he’d resign on the spot.
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| I blame the coach more than the players. I felt a bit sorry for Hastings, who tried hard, and did after all create our only decent scoring chance; Hodgson's try was a fluke.
I wonder if Williams, or even Trueman, will get a game against the Kumuls.
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| Quote ="moto748"
I wonder if Williams, or even Trueman, will get a game against the Kumuls.'"
How can Wayne Bennett possibly risk defeat against the Kumuls by playing Jacob Trueman?
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| There is literally no reason to play centres in this side. As soon as the ball gets wide, it stops with Bateman and Whitehead. Now, I know they have had great season's but there is such a bias in the way we play in giving the ball to the NRL players. Graham just gets in the way and restricts space for Lomax and Hastings who at least inject some pace into the attack.
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| Today's game was almost like watching jelly set as it was that boring
We've tried to copy the NRL style to beat the Aussies and Kiwis and it's not been a massive success has it?
I want an English coach to get the Englang/GB job and who will play to our strengths rather than the oppositions strengths whereby we come off 2nd best the majority of games
Our forwards can hold their own but sadly our backs are light years away from testing the best sides at present unfortunately
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How can Wayne Bennett possibly risk defeat against the Kumuls by playing Jacob Trueman?'"
He's risked everything else with players out of position because of is inept squad selection. Moto is right in what he said.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Where is the crowd?'"
I was there in march for the manly v warriors game.... About 12k that day.... Felt like less yesterday. There is the england cricket tour on here at the moment and U2 were in auckland this weekend as well, so the game was a tough sell and there's been little if any hype other than on NZ Sky.
Even the tongan game in hamilton, an hours drive from south auckland was badly attended..... It has been an awful tour in most respects with a handful of touring fans
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"I was there in march for the manly v warriors game'"
Of course you were
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"Of course you were
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He actually lives in New Zealand. That is why he has so little understanding of northern hemisphere rugby league, especially rugby league in France and Canada.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He actually [u=#FF0000lives i New Zealand.[/u=#0000FFThat is why he has so little understanding of northern hemisphere rugby league, especially rugby league in France and Canada.'"
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He actually lives i New Zealand. That is why he has so little understanding of northern hemisphere rugby league, especially rugby league in France and Canada.'"
OMG you take talking to yourself to a whole new level
Seriously you could be classed as criminally insane in a court of law
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How can Wayne Bennett possibly risk defeat against the Kumuls by playing Jacob Trueman?'"
Williams and Trueman will play and I think both will do well and could be the half back pairing at the next world cup.
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