because you would look extremely silly posting a million profit on 1.2 million turnover wouldn't you



Who said you have lied about anything

Didn't say it did. I'm talking about players we have brought through and are currently giving a shot. Youngsters like Danny Craven and Tom kelly, these guys take time to settle in to the full squad as they're green.

Delighted



Debt free is the main one! It's not hard to post big profits if your not having to pay loans back etc which is where other clubs books look worse... KR the best exampleof that probably!

Starbug go whindge to someone who cares!

The results will have to be publically available at Companies house before too long, won't they? Makes no sense to lie about the figures.

Does show how stupidly low the championship salary cap is set, though. Widnes are limited to spending less than 15% of turnover on first team wages.

Except turnover is not necessarily an indication of the strength of a business , I could ( if I had the money ) sponsor a match at Leigh for 1 million pounds , they invoice me and I write out the cheque , then the day after I invoice them for ' management fees ' of 1 million , and they write out me a cheque , result , Leighs turnover goes up by 1 million pounds overnight

Not hard to do

Love the way that Widnes get hammered on the VT for the performance of their first team (only 5th in the league! Shocking!), and then a decent (consequential?) financial result is published, get hammered again. Things that make you go hmmm..

Would you like to explain how Widnes having a relatively poor playing season 5 th is consequential to a positive financial result ?

what's a whindge ?

Yes but profit would be 0! Ours is over 1 million still... Fact!

ambitious chairman,potential decent fan base, good youth system, up to standard stadium,finances in order. ill be surprised if you dont get in next season only thing going against you imo is you do wear some very dodgy colours

You really haven't been paying attention have you ?

Congratulations to Steve O Connor in his new position at Red Hall , given his record he will be able to sort all the clubs out in a year or so


Then he can move on to downing street before sorting out world peace and famine at the United Nations

"Cleaners" wages still have to go through the books even if they're not counted on the salary cap!

Was good enough for Stobart and to create his own business worth over 30mill I'd say his track record is pretty good!

Not denying he is a very successful businessman , and anybody willing to finance a club at this level gets my ultimtimate respect , but magician he isn't

He is playing the Red Hall game , and good luck to him and you lot as well , you will get to SL and hopefully you will prosper there

I ll leave you alone now to continue to orgasm

There's playing the game and then making it look silly.

Cheers! No doubt you'll have another moan about people doing Leigh and the world wrong tommorow! May be good for Leigh to speak to SO'C and see how to do it the best way and boost your chances for 2015!

The first time SOC met Leigh, he apologised for not wearing a tie and asked for time to get his head around RL and how it ran. Everyone knew he was a succesful man he was also very humble and because of it drew a lot of respect straight away (compared to that foul mouthed lout up at Barrow).

Since then he and Leigh have had a very good relationship, and you won't find many more happy for the bloke should he take Widnes into SL.

If Saints had a bad season fans will not go to games.It can happen mate and roles can be reversed.People go to watch winning teams.

please explain why widnes should have automatic right over fev or anyone who wins the league hands down with or without the way promotion and relegation works iam not trying to be anti widnes or anything just think its not fair the way its done if it was any team promotion should be on winning the league not on merit

the widnes fans on here will agree with you , even at this late stage of the process

But it isn't us making the decision is it , all widnes and Steve o Connor is doing is playing the hand dealt them

That is all any of us can now do

Widnes will be in SL in 2012 , as they are the club with the best potential to make a success of it

Very much so, I would much prefer to see P&R, even the amount of finals we lost in.. They were always fun to go to.. Given we didn't have to play the franchising game im sure the league this year would be very different..

Also on a point Hullkrforever keeps making.. You keep mentioning fev should go up etc.. You of all people should know how the playoffs from the P&R days worked and know fev could win the league hands down, Doesn't mean they should go up.. They still have to beat fax, who imo will win.. And then beat widnes / leigh / sheffield / barrow (not likely).. All Of which were very close games and given a push could go either way..

The systems a mockery, do you not agree. Giving the green light to a club who have no need to compete within that division.

Or do you see it different because its Widnes.

But we have competed. We are currently in the Play-Off's, having landed 5th. We never got beat by more than 20 points, do you not class that as competing ?

For a point towards a 2009-2011 License, SL Clubs had to end up in 8th place or higher.

We have done that 3 years running in our respective League.

That's being competetive.

No one likes us. We don't care.

I don't give a stuff whether anyone thinks we don't deserve Super League because we've not won the championship. We're having to sing to the RFL's tune. So no amount of crying from the likes of Wakey or HKR supporters will change that or make us believe we don't deserve our shot at Super League. Time some of you pulled your sorry backsides into 2010, P&R is dead. Hopefully the franchise system will weed some of the dross out of SL and enable properly run clubs like ours to prosper.

PS Saddened is a bitter gobe that should be taken about as seriously as Dally Messenger.