[uWigan's Average Attendances.[/u

2003 - 10,216
2004 - 12,649
2005 - 13,891
2006 - 14,464 (Noble joined mid season).
2007 - 16,039
2008 - 14,504
2009 - 14,085
2010 - Current Average 14,894 with two expected full houses (25k) to come.

You do of course realise that the word you've highlighted and are inferring to as an example of poor spelling is actually the correct spelling, don't you? No? Oh dear, [url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unsurprisinglyunsurprisingly not![/url

You are just sniping at the club. You're transparent. We can all snipe, some of us though have much more to work with than others which goes some way to explaining why you have to make up your material.

Stick a fork in him someone, he's done.

500 taken off both the south and north stands though. So more like 24k.

It's been a topic that I could win mastermind with since 2002.......even the club asked for copy of it

It's just a shame your grammar isn't.

huddersfield were averaging under 4000 way back so their current crowds are quite good in comparison

it would be nice to see them breaking a 10,000 crowd average though with their ground i think they need 15,000 to get a really good atmosphere

im not fussed if clubs give away tickets to juniors or whatever, getting them in is the important thing

looking down the track :

saints - new ground, will add 5000 to their gates, or at least be 15,000 or more
widnes in SL - will start off at 6000 / 7000 and go close to 10,000
salford - construction work starting at their ground so dont see why they cant at least double current crowds to 8000 then push higher

bradford - if they can move to valley parade and be accepted by fans can get back the 7000 or so lost fans

this will see the sl average well over 10,000

Ok then,what has my grammar got to do with it she does not even post on here

We've been over this before so no point again but 3 out of 4 of those aren't happening anytime soon. Bradford were gash at VP

saints are getting a new ground
construction has started at salford
and widnes will be in SL next time

I agree about Widnes.
Saints' current figures are distorted by two huge huge away followings because of 'the last derby at knowsley'. Wire took 6800 t'other week. Don't forget the new capacity is practically the same size and as found out at Warrington, the terraces might be full but in hard cash times (i dont know how bad the recession is in aus), the expensive seats arent filled. They MAY do but I'll be VERY suprised to see them average over 15k.

Salford wont hit 8k and i'll tell you why.
They'll be gone in place of Widnes.

I think we may have a 'rugby league popularity explosion' coming, I really do, but I think being a working class sport we need to see out this financial crisis first. We're middle class, traditionally well off and we're finding it hard paying for all the games. Give it a few years, 3+ and you might see a SL 10,000 average

look the GFC is over

RL crowds last year taking out the 2 new clubs were unchanged

with construction underway at salford theyll be in SL.

its sad you dont think one of the most famous and succesful clubs in a brand new ground (st helens) cant average at least 15,000

im expecting it to be higher

RL is in very healthy shape, especially compared to say RU where clubs are losing millions of pounds each

wages are realistic, crowds are growing, TV ratings very healthy and the game expanding!

Thanks for the spelling lesson. Not sure why you think that I would actually care how you spell unsurprisingly tbh

Dally at the moment Saints are averaging roughly between10,500 and11,000,so i think like you they could easily average 15,000.

Jesus Dally, I've suspected it in the past but now I know, you're doolally.

This office employs roughly 20 people.
6 of us are season ticket holders, go nearly every game, because we can afford it as an 'extra' if you will. A further 8 people are former season ticket holders who simply cannot afford to go anymore, when times are tight, 17 quid a week, transport, couple of pints etc is too much when people have families to support. 6 others are women or just dont care.
2 points from this scenario; a) this is a law office, we're not exactly the lowest of the pecking order b) this is just ONE office in warrington.
Imagine this accross everywhere.

The financial 'crisis' might be over in Australia I don't know, but lets face it, there's nothing of any note there. Probably no banks needed to be bailed out I mean, do you have any banks that even register on a world level?

One SL club will be departing us, I can't see past Salford if we tally up points accross the board, it definately won't be wakefield as you claimed as definate not so long ago.

I do also believe RL to be in a healthy state, as I said in my post above I think we're on for a boom, the RL word is spreading but it wont be this year, next or the one after that. Unemployment is ridiculous among educated people even and Families just haven't got the money. Simple as

You are mad dally, seriously. Things are not that easy. RL is in a slight mess here. We need years of building before being the big sport you try and make RL out to be in England.

They are well out of the recession in Australia and are reaping the benefits of loads of natural resources......but remember, some of the posters on here from down under think as their country as the world......the recession is still hitting hard pretty much everywhere else which tells you how insular they can be down under

Saints wouldn't get higher averages than Wigan I don't think.

Lol comments like "we're middle class" make me laugh, does it even exist except to those that think they are??

which bit is unrealistic?

saints at 15,000?
widnes at 6000 growing to 10,000?

seriously if these clubs cant average this in new grounds, in the heartlands with no real competition from other sports you guys should just give up

if you think the RFL will kick out salford now that they are building their ground you need help.

To answer you question...it does exist. The difference between middle and working class is you credit score and ability to get credit.....and the distribution of credit to the working calss has resulted in the current recession
Proof!

and the people giving them that credit were the upper classes who didnt care because they get million dollar bonuses.

NRL :

average year to date : 17,749

best -

broncos 35,514
storm 21,186
saints 20,258
souths 20,078
tigers 19,743
eels 18,542
dogs 17,989

worst -

sharks 11,609
panthers 13,850
cowboys 14,374

and your point is?
Aspiration is just another form of jealousy....kind of like league being green eyed over unions INTERNATIONAL appeal and it being the other way around DOMESTICALLY ......everyone wants to keep up with the joneses.