[quote="The games afoot":ielfa6mf]Pleased for Balmforth,like people say..he is still raw but there is a player in there…I wonder how Grix feels seeing that he used to criticise him and if he had his way,he would have gone.[/quote:ielfa6mf] You say he is still raw and then have a rant about a coach because he publicly said the same? Wasn’t the quote something like “Denvine had a solid game but still needs to work on a few things off the ball and in defence” sounds like good advice for a player that’s raw. Not only that some very wise coaches have always liked to keep young players feet on the ground. I have no particular feelings on Grix, he was an assistant coach thrust into a job that he didn’t ask for managing one of the worst squads assembled in SL history. Think it’s a bit strange that some of our fans have a bit of an obsession with him. Myler and Cartwright have been absolutely ruthless with contracted players like Adbull, Morgan Smith, Walker etc if Grix was really upsetting the players I’m sure they’d have let him go, all evidence points to people in the game thinking that he’s maybe a decent coach.

Grix was absolute garbage He allowed the poorest discipline ever seen and never corrected it End of story ! Garbage and garbage is what we watched under him Balmforth epitomised the same garbage Totally unfit and never once changed that and his coach didn’t make him get fit bit just critiscised him Both needed to leave at the end of the season

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":1mkpelx6]Grix was absolute garbage He allowed the poorest discipline ever seen and never corrected it End of story ! Garbage and garbage is what we watched under him Balmforth epitomised the same garbage Totally unfit and never once changed that and his coach didn’t make him get fit bit just critiscised him Both needed to leave at the end of the season[/quote:1mkpelx6] I do find these posts quite rude. Grix got a bum deal said nothing horrendous about Balmforth and is well thought of in rl community. It’s always easy to ascribe blame in the disaster of last season. There were so many factors some we don’t know of that contributed to not our worst season ever - we’ve been a division below- not least an assistant coach dropped right in it. Cartwright, who is the messiah until our first game,has seen nothing bad in him. It may be that he’s a natural assistant rather than head coach. I feel posters should remember coaching staff are working long hours and losing sleep which Grix was to turn this club around. To call him garbage is disrespectful.

John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo

John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo

[quote="Huddersfield1895":2llkl0rr]John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo[/quote:2llkl0rr] It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.

[quote="Huddersfield1895":2llkl0rr]John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo[/quote:2llkl0rr] It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.

[quote="Theeaststander1":u8zajx8u]It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.[/quote:u8zajx8u] Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?

[quote="Hullfc-white":1k70thtr]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:1k70thtr] Just ignore him, he's been outed as a bullter. Clearly not very bright either.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":2bd0ifxw]Just ignore him, he's been outed as a bullter. Clearly not very bright either.[/quote:2bd0ifxw] ? Open forum but you’re getting upset Weird And nobodies ‘outed’ anything, you got beat 64-8 behind closed doors ? Nobody challenged that

[quote="Hullfc-white":221x4c0l]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:221x4c0l] Last time I checked he was the hull fc head coach

[quote="Hullfc-white":51wkvfkf]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:51wkvfkf] Simple really: Because they don't have a dedicated Hull KR reporter because the Mail doesn't get enough hits on the articles Shaw et all writes.

[color=#FF0000:1x4x58r4][b:1x4x58r4]Another reminder to some of the newer posters that are appearing on this board, that whilst it is open to fans of RL, it is a Hull FC board first and foremost. Anyone who is coming on here simply to continually be a WUM or get a reaction from members/users of this board, will be banned from this board. I'm all for a bit of banter and accept due to the way Hull FC's recent seasons have panned out compared to those across the river we'd get some ribbing on here, however some posts are simply trolling and will not be tolerated. We want this board to remain an active and enjoyable place for Hull FC and fans of RL in general to interact and will take action to maintain that. Please take this as a friendly warning.[/b:1x4x58r4] [/color:1x4x58r4]

Lets be honest a new head coach isn't going to come in and say that the new owners who have committed to pumping substantial amounts of money into the club are going to be failures is he.

[quote="Theeaststander1":296kbtuq]It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.[/quote:296kbtuq] If we just let the action do the talking there’d be no journalism and you’d have only the games to complain about. Any articles on rugby league are publicity. On that subject, and I think it’s been said elsewhere, our game lack marketable personalities eg the bad boys like we had in the 90s and naughtiest - Barrie Mac, Adrian Morley, further back Andy Gregory etc.Because the game has clamped down on head tackles which I understand and red cards for throwing punches it loses some of its appeal. I think that a retaliatory punch should perhaps be treated with some leniency depending on circumstances. Aside I still think that quality RL is the best team sport. See state of origin!

[quote="Theeaststander1":38iotr5s]? Open forum but you’re getting upset Weird And nobodies ‘outed’ anything, you got beat 64-8 behind closed doors ? Nobody challenged that[/quote:38iotr5s] Any evidence in this, as the only person saying this is you. The game probably wasn't 80 minutes, probably no conversions, so you are saying that York scored 16 trys. You told us Sneyd and Cross was done. Stick to Twitter, that's your level, arguing with every fan of other clubs.

Absolutely no chance that isn't somewhere on social media if we got beat by that score.

[quote="mk_fc":3ozv2sph]I didnt think they where allowed to register anyone..[/quote:3ozv2sph] Just seen an article by Aaron Bowers on the Salford situation and he seems to think that they can, but they won’t be able to exceed the 1.2 million sustainably cap until the takeover is completed, any signings like Chan would count towards that. He seems to think that they have £2 million worth of wages on the books at moment, but this ‘RFL sustainability cap’ means they can only register £1.2 million on the salary cap. A players wage only counts on the cap when they play a competitive game so if the takeover isn’t completed by the cup game on the weekend they’ll either have to sell players or have £800K worth of wages sat in the stand, which won’t be a problem for the cup game they’ll just play a reserve team but will be the same for the first league game if it’s not completed by then. The sustainability cap seems a daft idea to me and achieves nothing to help anyone if that’s true.

[quote="Theeaststander1":uk7pt7o4]Last time I checked he was the hull fc head coach[/quote:uk7pt7o4] Bit of a weird thing to check,suppose it goes with the territory eh

On the subject of articles/interviews this pre-season, I think that it's pretty obvious that the message FC are trying to project (and doing a good job of doing so IMO) is that of a fresh start. Forget last season (the last few seasons even), forget what you might have heard about what was going on behind the scenes because we're a new regime and we've made changes and will continue to make changes to try and be successful once more. This is being aimed at supporters to encourage pass sales and per match tickets but also a message to the wider game, particularly players and agents. They're marketing the club in the only way that they can until the season actually starts. It's also got a completely different tone to previous years in that it comes across as grounded and realistic. Any talk of success and ambition is something that we are aiming to build towards rather than immediate promises. This isn't the bullish stuff of being up there competing for honours with a full cap and competitive squad that we've grown used to. It's different.

[quote="DSJ1983":1h3ei2x0]Just seen an article by Aaron Bowers on the Salford situation and he seems to think that they can, but they won’t be able to exceed the 1.2 million sustainably cap until the takeover is completed, any signings like Chan would count towards that. He seems to think that they have £2 million worth of wages on the books at moment, but this ‘RFL sustainability cap’ means they can only register £1.2 million on the salary cap. A players wage only counts on the cap when they play a competitive game so if the takeover isn’t completed by the cup game on the weekend they’ll either have to sell players or have £800K worth of wages sat in the stand, which won’t be a problem for the cup game they’ll just play a reserve team but will be the same for the first league game if it’s not completed by then. The sustainability cap seems a daft idea to me and achieves nothing to help anyone if that’s true.[/quote:1h3ei2x0] I agree that sounds daft. What good would having £800k worth of players unregistered do them? They'd still be paying them which won't relieve their financial burdens. Madness if true. Hopefully the takeover is completed quickly for them.

[quote="Hullfc-white":1vly1h8w]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:1vly1h8w] Rovers fan gets upset after Hull hold media day.

[quote="mwindass":3hbo8o1u]Rovers fan gets upset after Hull hold media day.[/quote:3hbo8o1u] Was peeking over the fence with his binoculars.

[quote="Roam Ranger":sz5k0b3g]I agree that sounds daft. What good would having £800k worth of players unregistered do them? They'd still be paying them which won't relieve their financial burdens. Madness if true. Hopefully the takeover is completed quickly for them.[/quote:sz5k0b3g] That’s what I thought, it just potentially devalues the early rounds of the competition but does nothing to change the clubs financial circumstances. Unless I’ve not understood but I’m sure that’s what he’s saying. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions

[quote="Roam Ranger":sz5k0b3g]I agree that sounds daft. What good would having £800k worth of players unregistered do them? They'd still be paying them which won't relieve their financial burdens. Madness if true. Hopefully the takeover is completed quickly for them.[/quote:sz5k0b3g] That’s what I thought, it just potentially devalues the early rounds of the competition but does nothing to change the clubs financial circumstances. Unless I’ve not understood but I’m sure that’s what he’s saying. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions

[quote="Roam Ranger":37ml3so9]On the subject of articles/interviews this pre-season, I think that it's pretty obvious that the message FC are trying to project (and doing a good job of doing so IMO) is that of a fresh start. Forget last season (the last few seasons even), forget what you might have heard about what was going on behind the scenes because we're a new regime and we've made changes and will continue to make changes to try and be successful once more. This is being aimed at supporters to encourage pass sales and per match tickets but also a message to the wider game, particularly players and agents. They're marketing the club in the only way that they can until the season actually starts. It's also got a completely different tone to previous years in that it comes across as grounded and realistic. Any talk of success and ambition is something that we are aiming to build towards rather than immediate promises. This isn't the bullish stuff of being up there competing for honours with a full cap and competitive squad that we've grown used to. It's different.[/quote:37ml3so9] Completely agree with the above. As you say RR, the whole off-season media campaign has being about instilling some positive thinking into the fan base (fresh start, new broom, new objectives, etc.). It puts across the idea that everyone connected with the club is rolling their sleeves up and are tackling the numerous problems surrounding the club which need addressing if we are to make any progress. Communicating with the fan base is simply one aspect of the 'new-start' program we hope will bring results. If Myler/Cartwright/Anybody else said nothing, we would all be up in arms asking (rightly) where is the interaction with supporters. At the other extreme, if Cartwright came out and said it's Old Trafford or bust in 2025 I reckon we would all be saying all he's done is set us up for an almighty fall! But that clearly isn't the case. All JC has said, ever since he set foot in the place, is that he believes success will return to the club [i:37ml3so9][u:37ml3so9]in time[/u:37ml3so9][/i:37ml3so9], not necessarily immediately, but [u:37ml3so9][i:37ml3so9]in time[/i:37ml3so9][/u:37ml3so9]. He was asked a question in an interview and he answered it honestly and in a straightforward manner. What is he supposed to do exactly in that situation? sit there like a dumb waiter, staring into space, saying nothing! He is the Hull Fc coach speaking, primarily, to Hull Fc fans as part of his duties as a Hull Fc coach, can't say I can see too much of a problem with this! nor, I suspect, will any other black & white. Let's face it, he's hardly coming across like Jose Mourinho when he first arrived at Chelsea, is he, shouting the odds through a megaphone from the rooftops!! Seriously cannot see what the problem is here. Still, each to their own, eh!!

[quote="DSJ1983":rrwzlv6c]That’s what I thought, it just potentially devalues the early rounds of the competition but does nothing to change the clubs financial circumstances. Unless I’ve not understood but I’m sure that’s what he’s saying. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions[/quote:rrwzlv6c] I have read and re-read the article and I am understanding it the same way as you. The only takeaway I am getting from it is that the RFL can't force Salford's hand unless they fail to meet their payroll. The sustainability cap just reads like a symbolic gesture. I'm starting to wonder if it can even legally be enforced. What would actually happen if Salford decided to go full strength against Saints in the opening round?

[quote="DSJ1983":rrwzlv6c]That’s what I thought, it just potentially devalues the early rounds of the competition but does nothing to change the clubs financial circumstances. Unless I’ve not understood but I’m sure that’s what he’s saying. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... strictions[/quote:rrwzlv6c] I have read and re-read the article and I am understanding it the same way as you. The only takeaway I am getting from it is that the RFL can't force Salford's hand unless they fail to meet their payroll. The sustainability cap just reads like a symbolic gesture. I'm starting to wonder if it can even legally be enforced. What would actually happen if Salford decided to go full strength against Saints in the opening round?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-le ... n=sharebar Interview with Hardaker in the mirror. Hope it doesn't upset our resident Rovers fan too much

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-le ... n=sharebar Interview with Hardaker in the mirror. Hope it doesn't upset our resident Rovers fan too much