[quote="Rugby Raider":2cd7m8zx]Might suggest that the Salford ‘Trading’ of players has commenced…..[/quote:2cd7m8zx] I didnt think they where allowed to register anyone..

[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog":8cwokvg6]The Salford situation is making a mockery of the sport.[/quote:8cwokvg6] To be fair I don’t think anything’s really changed in the last week or so. All that’s happened is that clubs have agreed for quota dispensation if the situation arises that they need to sell, Salford still seem pretty insistent that they won’t need to sell.

[quote="DSJ1983":284tfcp9]Good to have Balmforth signed up, said it seemed like a big gamble for me letting him start the season able to negotiate with other clubs, if he started the season well we’d have been in a battle to keep him. Also been confirmed by Matt Shaw that clubs have been given quota dispensation to sign Salford players. Don’t think it’s that relevant for us, Cross was the target and if they do sell think it will only be Leeds now with the Sivo injury.[/quote:284tfcp9] Wouldn't that put us in a better position if we decided to make a move for Lafai, McDonald or Marsters? We need a centre and have cap space unlike a few other clubs. The dispensation allows an extra quota signing on a 1 year contract. Lafai is only on a 1 year deal at Salford so I guess he might accept a similar contract if we offered him one. All hypothetical. I'd rather Salford secure the investment sort the mess out and avoid a fire sale.

[quote="DSJ1983":1o9wfo4s]To be fair I don’t think anything’s really changed in the last week or so. All that’s happened is that clubs have agreed for quota dispensation if the situation arises that they need to sell, Salford still seem pretty insistent that they won’t need to sell.[/quote:1o9wfo4s] But the rfl put them in special measures and stopped them signing/registering players if I remember rightly?

[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog":2f04nzm2]But the rfl put them in special measures and stopped them signing/registering players if I remember rightly?[/quote:2f04nzm2] Yeah I was assuming you meant the latest development in that clubs have seemingly now granted dispensation to sign quota players from Salford, just don’t think there’s a lot in that and the situation is the same as it was the last week or so, Salford are looking to get the takeover finalised.

[quote="mk_fc":1hrhkhn6]I didnt think they where allowed to register anyone..[/quote:1hrhkhn6] I was meaning that Chan may be on lower pay than some of the highest paid Salford players and him arriving might signal the start of others leaving to clear the £700k cost deficit. After all, if Salford aren’t bought and need to sell, they still need to put a team out every week, so some lower cost players will be needed.

[quote="Marcus's Bicycle":u3qlpqt5]Wouldn't that put us in a better position if we decided to make a move for Lafai, McDonald or Marsters? We need a centre and have cap space unlike a few other clubs. The dispensation allows an extra quota signing on a 1 year contract. Lafai is only on a 1 year deal at Salford so I guess he might accept a similar contract if we offered him one. All hypothetical. I'd rather Salford secure the investment sort the mess out and avoid a fire sale.[/quote:u3qlpqt5] Like you say it’s all hypothetical and nobody knows. If I had to make a guess I’d say Salford will push for quota and cap dispensation and force a bidding war for Macdonald for a five figure fee that Rovers would eventually win. They get a big fee and possibly the biggest earner off the books but still maintain a decent squad and steady the ship, like they did with Croft and Ackers the year before. Marsters was on the open market a few months ago when we had quota spots and we didn’t seem to make a play, nobody knows for certain that we didn’t but I’d have expected noise if we did. Lafai like you say is supposed to be heading home next year so could be an option. Nobody really knows what’s happening at Salford but I don’t think they’ll be losing lots of players now it looks like they’ll get a takeover sorted soon.

Pleased for Balmforth,like people say..he is still raw but there is a player in there…I wonder how Grix feels seeing that he used to criticise him and if he had his way,he would have gone.

Echo the thoughts of many, pleased to see Balmforth given a deal.

[quote="The games afoot":ielfa6mf]Pleased for Balmforth,like people say..he is still raw but there is a player in there…I wonder how Grix feels seeing that he used to criticise him and if he had his way,he would have gone.[/quote:ielfa6mf] You say he is still raw and then have a rant about a coach because he publicly said the same? Wasn’t the quote something like “Denvine had a solid game but still needs to work on a few things off the ball and in defence” sounds like good advice for a player that’s raw. Not only that some very wise coaches have always liked to keep young players feet on the ground. I have no particular feelings on Grix, he was an assistant coach thrust into a job that he didn’t ask for managing one of the worst squads assembled in SL history. Think it’s a bit strange that some of our fans have a bit of an obsession with him. Myler and Cartwright have been absolutely ruthless with contracted players like Adbull, Morgan Smith, Walker etc if Grix was really upsetting the players I’m sure they’d have let him go, all evidence points to people in the game thinking that he’s maybe a decent coach.

Grix was absolute garbage He allowed the poorest discipline ever seen and never corrected it End of story ! Garbage and garbage is what we watched under him Balmforth epitomised the same garbage Totally unfit and never once changed that and his coach didn’t make him get fit bit just critiscised him Both needed to leave at the end of the season

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":1mkpelx6]Grix was absolute garbage He allowed the poorest discipline ever seen and never corrected it End of story ! Garbage and garbage is what we watched under him Balmforth epitomised the same garbage Totally unfit and never once changed that and his coach didn’t make him get fit bit just critiscised him Both needed to leave at the end of the season[/quote:1mkpelx6] I do find these posts quite rude. Grix got a bum deal said nothing horrendous about Balmforth and is well thought of in rl community. It’s always easy to ascribe blame in the disaster of last season. There were so many factors some we don’t know of that contributed to not our worst season ever - we’ve been a division below- not least an assistant coach dropped right in it. Cartwright, who is the messiah until our first game,has seen nothing bad in him. It may be that he’s a natural assistant rather than head coach. I feel posters should remember coaching staff are working long hours and losing sleep which Grix was to turn this club around. To call him garbage is disrespectful.

John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo

John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo

[quote="Huddersfield1895":2llkl0rr]John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo[/quote:2llkl0rr] It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.

[quote="Huddersfield1895":2llkl0rr]John Cartwright is confident that the new owners will bring success. https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/ ... 45290l4pvo[/quote:2llkl0rr] It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.

[quote="Theeaststander1":u8zajx8u]It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.[/quote:u8zajx8u] Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?

[quote="Hullfc-white":1k70thtr]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:1k70thtr] Just ignore him, he's been outed as a bullter. Clearly not very bright either.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":2bd0ifxw]Just ignore him, he's been outed as a bullter. Clearly not very bright either.[/quote:2bd0ifxw] ? Open forum but you’re getting upset Weird And nobodies ‘outed’ anything, you got beat 64-8 behind closed doors ? Nobody challenged that

[quote="Hullfc-white":221x4c0l]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:221x4c0l] Last time I checked he was the hull fc head coach

[quote="Hullfc-white":51wkvfkf]Hull fc haven’t, it’s a bbc article.It baffles me why you’re bothered?[/quote:51wkvfkf] Simple really: Because they don't have a dedicated Hull KR reporter because the Mail doesn't get enough hits on the articles Shaw et all writes.

[color=#FF0000:1x4x58r4][b:1x4x58r4]Another reminder to some of the newer posters that are appearing on this board, that whilst it is open to fans of RL, it is a Hull FC board first and foremost. Anyone who is coming on here simply to continually be a WUM or get a reaction from members/users of this board, will be banned from this board. I'm all for a bit of banter and accept due to the way Hull FC's recent seasons have panned out compared to those across the river we'd get some ribbing on here, however some posts are simply trolling and will not be tolerated. We want this board to remain an active and enjoyable place for Hull FC and fans of RL in general to interact and will take action to maintain that. Please take this as a friendly warning.[/b:1x4x58r4] [/color:1x4x58r4]

Lets be honest a new head coach isn't going to come in and say that the new owners who have committed to pumping substantial amounts of money into the club are going to be failures is he.

[quote="Theeaststander1":296kbtuq]It baffles me why Hull FC churn out articles every year during pre-season, especially with quotes like that. Just let the action do the talking.[/quote:296kbtuq] If we just let the action do the talking there’d be no journalism and you’d have only the games to complain about. Any articles on rugby league are publicity. On that subject, and I think it’s been said elsewhere, our game lack marketable personalities eg the bad boys like we had in the 90s and naughtiest - Barrie Mac, Adrian Morley, further back Andy Gregory etc.Because the game has clamped down on head tackles which I understand and red cards for throwing punches it loses some of its appeal. I think that a retaliatory punch should perhaps be treated with some leniency depending on circumstances. Aside I still think that quality RL is the best team sport. See state of origin!

[quote="Theeaststander1":38iotr5s]? Open forum but you’re getting upset Weird And nobodies ‘outed’ anything, you got beat 64-8 behind closed doors ? Nobody challenged that[/quote:38iotr5s] Any evidence in this, as the only person saying this is you. The game probably wasn't 80 minutes, probably no conversions, so you are saying that York scored 16 trys. You told us Sneyd and Cross was done. Stick to Twitter, that's your level, arguing with every fan of other clubs.

Absolutely no chance that isn't somewhere on social media if we got beat by that score.

[quote="mk_fc":3ozv2sph]I didnt think they where allowed to register anyone..[/quote:3ozv2sph] Just seen an article by Aaron Bowers on the Salford situation and he seems to think that they can, but they won’t be able to exceed the 1.2 million sustainably cap until the takeover is completed, any signings like Chan would count towards that. He seems to think that they have £2 million worth of wages on the books at moment, but this ‘RFL sustainability cap’ means they can only register £1.2 million on the salary cap. A players wage only counts on the cap when they play a competitive game so if the takeover isn’t completed by the cup game on the weekend they’ll either have to sell players or have £800K worth of wages sat in the stand, which won’t be a problem for the cup game they’ll just play a reserve team but will be the same for the first league game if it’s not completed by then. The sustainability cap seems a daft idea to me and achieves nothing to help anyone if that’s true.