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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"
If you think after a day on the beach at Harlyn or somewhere I’m going to pack up early and drive to Penryn to watch Cornwall versus Doncaster. Rather than going back for a barbecue and few Proper jobs you’re being a bit optimistic.
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And if you had a missus and kids in tow you'd have no chance of going to the game even if you really wanted to go.
let's take this back to Hemel Hempstead where that Licence came from. Hemel were a successful southern amateur club that really built something including a really good junior game that delivered Dan Sarginson. They managed to get to league one and made fifth place in it one season, but the fans didn't turn up with attendances at 200 and the costs of the professional side of things destroying the club as a community club.
The only way this has legs is if a rich owner does turn up, and if it was me I'd back the Rebels, albeit just like Perez i don't have that sort of money to burn.....
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I flit between El Dorado and Shangri-La myself, but I will collect up a sack of gold coins from the beach when I'm in Dorado, and you can take them down to Eric for me......'"
Unlike you, who has never left the city of Bradford, I am well travelled. Ive probably been to Miami more times than youve been to a rugby game, but probably not as many times as saleslim has had taxi rides.
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| The Championship and League One clubs are meeting with RFL at the Shay today and it’s not gone down well.
League one clubs have been advised their central funding is being cut from £62000 to £16000 next year with no travel allowances.
Added in to this none of the club chairmen were consulted on this before the RFL announcement.
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| It's a shame for Cornwall that the 'Stadium for Cornwall' is struggling to get off the ground with funding. This was planned to be a 10k stadium in Truro which is the biggest town and be shared by Truro football and Cornish Pirates.
Traditionally Cornwall struggles with having decent stadiums and as others have already mentioned travel times can be long down winding roads.
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| If you launched a competition to determine the least logistically feasible place to place a Rugby League team, then Cornwall would be top 10 if not first. Its so utterly absurd that even for our tin-pot sport I'm astonished.
I've often wondered why established RU clubs haven't considered launching their own sister side in League. For a modest investment they could sweat their primary stadium asset year round and potentially tap into new player markets.
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| I would of thought Ornery Optimist and silent h would of been all over this with enthusiasm but it's mighty quite from their side
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| Coventry Bears have "rebranded" as Midlands Hurricanes.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Coventry Bears have "rebranded" as Midlands Hurricanes.'"
Is the mindset really that if you stick a broader geographical area in your team name you magically widen the appeal? I'm sceptical but Bradford have proposed something fairly similar in a letter to season ticket holders. The rebrand will see us be named the "Bradford and most of western Europe apart from France Bulls".
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Is the mindset really that if you stick a broader geographical area in your team name you magically widen the appeal? I'm sceptical but Bradford have proposed something fairly similar in a letter to season ticket holders. The rebrand will see us be named the "Bradford and most of western Europe apart from France Bulls".'"
I too am sceptical about wether these regional names work, but it depends on the region
Catalans have successfully tapped into the Catalan independence spirit. I can see Cornwall working as a brand as they too have strong independence feelings. But I'm not sure that applies to the Midlands, people generally tend to say they are from Birmingham, Coventry, West Brom etc not the region as a whole, and they don't demand independence as far as I know!
The Welsh club rebrands have been a mess, I've lost track who the Raiders or Ironmen are and where they play.
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| To be fair, the Coventry rebrand is on the back of a decent amount of new investment
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"To be fair, the Coventry rebrand is on the back of a decent amount of new investment'"
There can be buckets of cash, but unless they've a plan to do anything other than move a few games to different stadiums and hand out free tickets, it'll go th3 way of London.
Starting with schools visits and coaching sessions, along with inviting The Whole Family" to a game and then keeping in touch, asking for feedback, sending fan-packs with a hat/t-shirt.....look at the wedge wasps spent when they moved.....hundreds of thousands and they're still struggling with gates.
It's one thing having cash.....but knowing how and when to spend it is a totally different thing.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Coventry Bears have "rebranded" as Midlands Hurricanes.'"
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| Quote ="orangeman"There can be buckets of cash, but unless they've a plan to do anything other than move a few games to different stadiums and hand out free tickets, it'll go th3 way of London.
Starting with schools visits and coaching sessions, along with inviting The Whole Family" to a game and then keeping in touch, asking for feedback, sending fan-packs with a hat/t-shirt.....look at the wedge wasps spent when they moved.....hundreds of thousands and they're still struggling with gates.
It's one thing having cash.....but knowing how and when to spend it is a totally different thing.'"
Possibly you know more on investment than a new Club in Cornwall? Care to share?
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| Quote ="snowie"add that to the comments from McDermott when he was at Toronto saying how the game needs to think bigger than little pit villages, looks like eating humble pie every day now that he's at Featherstone, I hope he chokes on it
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The last paying attendances published for the clubs in question included
Pit village second tier Leigh 3,055
Pit Village second tier Featherstone 2,282
Massive international city of over 9 Million people, playing Superleague, London 2,014
Massive International city of over 6 Million people leading and winning the championship Toronto erm...er......6,988
However I have no information how many just attended the Beer festival, how many were given free tickets and how many used the free gate.
I can only guess the $30 Million loss Toronto made points to nobody actually paying so can we make that a Zero?
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| The Midlands Hurricanes are moving from Coventry. Their home for next season is Birmingham & Solihull RFC’s ground but they’re apparently in discussions with the Alexander Stadium regarding making the stadium in Birmingham their permanent home from 2023.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"The Midlands Hurricanes are moving from Coventry. Their home for next season is Birmingham & Solihull RFC’s ground but they’re apparently in discussions with the Alexander Stadium regarding making the stadium in Birmingham their permanent home from 2023.'"
Argh. I hate watching Rugby at athletics Stadiums. It robs it of atmosphere having 8 lanes of nothing between you and the pitch. I don't think that's a good move.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Argh. I hate watching Rugby at athletics Stadiums. It robs it of atmosphere having 8 lanes of nothing between you and the pitch. I don't think that's a good move.'"
With you on that. Plus - a few hundred fans in a 20,000 seater stadium are going to rattle around a bit. I’m quite excited about a semi pro team local to me but I think both the new name and the proposed venue might be a bit of a blooper. Fingers crossed.
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"The Midlands Hurricanes are moving from Coventry. Their home for next season is Birmingham & Solihull RFC’s ground but they’re apparently in discussions with the Alexander Stadium regarding making the stadium in Birmingham their permanent home from 2023.'"
I feel a bit sorry for the Coventry stalwarts who now find they are to be moved.
Worrying for the followers of League 1 sides when they have the less than salubrious stadia to visit at Solihull,Oldham and Cornwall.
The low attendances gives further ammunition to owners of Super League clubs and the keyboard critics of expansion clubs.
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"I feel a bit sorry for the Coventry stalwarts who now find they are to be moved.
Worrying for the followers of League 1 sides when they have the less than salubrious stadia to visit at Solihull,Oldham and Cornwall.
The low attendances gives further ammunition to owners of Super League clubs and the keyboard critics of expansion clubs.'"
Its the Rugby League way. Try to destroy the roots before they take hold.
Why stay in Bridgend and become integrated with a working class population, when you can move to Wrexham 5 hours away. Why stay in Maesteg when you can go to Neath, Torfaen, in a slate mine or just anywhere as long as you keep moving.
Why on earth stay in a specific area of London and become embedded in a sense of community when you can move between Fulham, Crystal Palace, Barnet, Brentford, Twickenham, Ealing, the back garden of Buckingham Palace.
Why would you stay put in Blackpool, a sizeable solidly working class town, when you could instead move to become the second team in Wigan, then on to Chorley, then Altrincham, before realising you should have been in Blackpool all along and you fold.
As I say it's imperative that we cleave up these pesky roots before they take hold otherwise we'll be in serious danger of growing the game which would be a total nightmare.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Its the Rugby League way. Try to destroy the roots before they take hold.
Why stay in Bridgend and become integrated with a working class population, when you can move to Wrexham 5 hours away. Why stay in Maesteg when you can go to Neath, Torfaen, in a slate mine or just anywhere as long as you keep moving.
Why on earth stay in a specific area of London and become embedded in a sense of community when you can move between Fulham, Crystal Palace, Barnet, Brentford, Twickenham, Ealing, the back garden of Buckingham Palace.
Why would you stay put in Blackpool, a sizeable solidly working class town, when you could instead move to become the second team in Wigan, then on to Chorley, then Altrincham, before realising you should have been in Blackpool all along and you fold.
As I say it's imperative that we cleave up these pesky roots before they take hold otherwise we'll be in serious danger of growing the game which would be a total nightmare.'"
North Wales have just announced they will stay in Colwyn Bay not Wrexham. When the music stops the RL team finds a new stadium!
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| BJ Leulia signing for Featherstone is crazy.
On his day he is the hardest running player in the game.
Just a few months ago I saw him play a reserve grade game and thought he might kill some NRL reserve graders.
If anyone makes him angry he could send some part time players to hospital.
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| Quote ="roopy"BJ Leulia signing for Featherstone is crazy.
On his day he is the hardest running player in the game.
Just a few months ago I saw him play a reserve grade game and thought he might kill some NRL reserve graders.
If anyone makes him angry he could send some part time players to hospital.'"
I just hope that Featherstone's aren't doing a "Super league or bust" thing. They seem really well run at the moment so you'd hope not.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Its the Rugby League way. Try to destroy the roots before they take hold.
Why stay in Bridgend and become integrated with a working class population, when you can move to Wrexham 5 hours away. Why stay in Maesteg when you can go to Neath, Torfaen, in a slate mine or just anywhere as long as you keep moving.
Why on earth stay in a specific area of London and [ubecome embedded in a sense of community[/u when you can move between Fulham, Crystal Palace, Barnet, Brentford, Twickenham, Ealing, the back garden of Buckingham Palace.
Why would you stay put in Blackpool, a sizeable solidly working class town, when you could instead move to become the second team in Wigan,'"
Because these so called expansion clubs do not become embedded in a sense of community
Blackpool spent 33 years trying to become "embedded" but attracted very little support (the seaside trip offered away fans a great day out but when Huyton who had no away fans landed in Boroughs last year the attendance was 240 Borough fans
Everywhere we go we are up against Soccer, and Union provides the "Rugby Alternative" Coventry City and Coventry RU are big clubs historically embedded in the city, so there is little enthusiasm to support Rugby league whether going through the turnstyles or actually playing it.
Can we claim a success in London after 40 years? It doesn't look like it, and is it a success when what we do manage to achieve is on the back of someone pumping in massive amounts of private money? The "success" is clearly very very expensive indeed.
So should Rugby Union be heavily castigated for their failure to get a foothold in Yorkshire and Lancashire? Where are Leeds RUFC after all these years??
If we want Rugby League to survive this won't happen via "Expansion" it can only happen through investing in the game in it's heartlands, so we need private money going into Bradford where they even dwarfed Bradford City, and Widnes a strong RL town by tradition. Prospective owners may still lose a bundle but this happens in all codes.....
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| TBH I’m not sure why I got so bothered about a Cornish team being in the league after I found out there’s even a Scottish team in the league!
I’d never heard of them before but there is a little club called Cèilidh Cougars in the League one. I think they’re based around Inverness or somewhere.
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Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"TBH I’m not sure why I got so bothered about a Cornish team being in the league after I found out there’s even a Scottish team in the league!
I’d never heard of them before but there is a little club called Cèilidh Cougars in the League one. I think they’re based around Inverness or somewhere.'"
Aren't the cougars a ice hockey team? Anyway............
https://usercontent.one/wp/www.scotland ... .08.21.pdf
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I’d never heard of them before but there is a little club called Cèilidh Cougars in the League one. I think they’re based around Inverness or somewhere.'"
Aren't the cougars a ice hockey team? Anyway............
https://usercontent.one/wp/www.scotland ... .08.21.pdf
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