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| Quote ="number 6"over aggressive would see an e-f grading, pushing your head into someone elses' would seem so, but his clean record would swing his way, just like peacock who had never thrown a punch in his career before the leigh game!
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If you grade that as an e-f, where does that leave you when someone properly headbutts someone?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Jamie Peacock trying to end Clark's career - clear penalty, kick you'd expect Sneyd to miss
Peacock + the other marker stood next to each other - clear penalty pretty much under the sticks
Neither given, both happened before that and would have meant what you saw never happened if Thaler actually had the bottle to give clear penalties to give Cas the game.'"
I don't think you have any credibility with that argument, at 24 - 18 down Cas got a string of penalties that culminated in Millingtons try and brought them level.
I agree about Peacocks foul on Clarke but not the Thaler comment
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| Deserved a red. You can't do that. However, this thread is yet another indication of what a bunch of pu55ies RL fans are. We hear fans go on and on about how the games gone soft, bring back the buff blah blah blah yet whenever anything happens in a game of RL that even slightly resembles "biff" we see a 20 page thread on here with people crying and complaining like kids.
As for he Clark injury, nothing in it.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"After the sinfield head butt did anyone see peacock with his hands round Dorns throat ?'"
Yes, seems to be turning into a little bit of a grub does Peacock. Massively respect him as a player, but he just seems to want to scrap all the time. He doesn't need to get involved in any "pushing & shoving" he can let his rugby do the talking.
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| Quote ="Mike Oxlong"Classy!!
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That's totally disgusting!
What a fool!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"icon_lol.gif Tonights over-reaction theatre.
Sinfield was silly, he wasnt a full on head butt, more a head push but you still cant do that, he will get a few games.
Peacock did nothing other than tackle a player and hold on to him, whats he supposed to do let an untackled player go? That one is laughable.
Really good game, too good teams playing good RL. Probably the best quality game ive seen this season.
Typical of RLfans that we will be seeing a conversation about a stupid bit of nonsense and the referee rather than the brilliant game we have just seen.'"
Who's over-reacting Smokey. The cleanest player in the game has head butted someone with no provocation. It's been discussed on a forum. Where's the overreaction?
Absolutely outstanding game though. Not a bad sport we have is it.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"What the f##k you talking about great tackle nothing it just part of game.'"
Give over. The intent may be to slow the game down, but it was very dangerous. I reckon JP will be receiving a nicely worded letter about his technique there.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"
For what it's worth didnt see much in the Clark tackle.'"
I didn't either. Clark was just turning to try to get up and play it quick but Peacock still had hold of his leg. Peacock certainly didn't seem to be twisting it himself.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Surely because the knock-on is the first offence? The fact a Cas player touches it next just kills the play?'"
The knock on was the first offence from Castleford, but the ball is still in play. The player who jumped on the ball was always in front of his team mate and made no attempt to get onside. Being offside he had no right to play at the ball and should have meant that Leeds were awarded a penalty for him being offside, rather than just the knock on.
If the Cas player, being offside, had left the ball then Leeds would have been able to start a run with a power play. The fact that the offside player jumped on the ball negated that.
It was a basic reffing error, but it was a huge one considering there was 30 seconds of the game remaining and a penalty would have put Leeds half way to the posts.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Deserved a red. You can't do that. However, this thread is yet another indication of what a bunch of pu55ies RL fans are. We hear fans go on and on about how the games gone soft, bring back the buff blah blah blah yet whenever anything happens in a game of RL that even slightly resembles "biff" we see a 20 page thread on here with people crying and complaining like kids.
As for he Clark injury, nothing in it.'"
Honestly, this thread has blown up because of [iwho[/i was involved in the headbutting, not the incident itself. Some big daft lad does this and nobody would blink an eye.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Some big daft lad does this and nobody would blink an eye.'"
If Luis Suarez did it, we'd be reading about it for four or five months.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"The knock on was the first offence from Castleford, but the ball is still in play. The player who jumped on the ball was always in front of his team mate and made no attempt to get onside. Being offside he had no right to play at the ball and should have meant that Leeds were awarded a penalty for him being offside, rather than just the knock on.
If the Cas player, being offside, had left the ball then Leeds would have been able to start a run with a power play. The fact that the offside player jumped on the ball negated that.
It was a basic reffing error, but it was a huge one considering there was 30 seconds of the game remaining and a penalty would have put Leeds half way to the posts.'"
Are you referring to the Jewitt knock on? If so, it's Clark who runs onto the loose ball and kicks it ahead, but his starting position was from behind Jewitt. No penalty there.
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| A deliberate head butt by Sinfield, deserves a lengthy ban.
Peacock is and has been an immense player, but he is putting in a lot of cheap shots lately.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Who's over-reacting Smokey. The cleanest player in the game has head butted someone with no provocation. It's been discussed on a forum. Where's the overreaction?
Absolutely outstanding game though. Not a bad sport we have is it.'"
theres a few. not all but a few.
It is a little disappointing to see a thread on this, a thread on Kallum Watkins apparently not being as good as he should be, but none on the absolutely wonderful game we have just seen.
If every game we had was like that (momentum changing bit of biff included ) we would be the among the biggest sports in the world.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"If Luis Suarez did it, we'd be reading about it for four or five months.'"
Too tame for his standards
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| Quote ="Nothus"Are you referring to the Jewitt knock on? If so, it's Clark who runs onto the loose ball and kicks it ahead, but his starting position was from behind Jewitt. No penalty there.'"
It happened about 30 seconds from the end. Around the half way line. My memory of it was that it was a simple knock on from Cas and a player in front of him just dropped on the ball.
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| Impossible to defend his actions really. Given his previous exemplary record, and lack of real menace in it, will probably be worthy of a couple of weeks on the sidelines.
As a Leeds fan, there's a couple of ways I can look at this;
1 - As silly as it was, I could be quite proud that the game meant that much to him, that he's snapped in the heat of the moment. Completely out of character, and probably cost Leeds a point, but a sign of passion and desire. And he certainly doesn't owe Leeds a thing, so can be forgiven on this occasion.
2 - I could be quite worried that he's snapped so easily - is it indicative of further frustration? Is something not quite right behind the scenes for him to snap like that?
I'm definitely more compelled to go with option 1, but if it is option 1, I'd have liked to have seen a few fists thrown too for good measure - might aswell make the ban worthwhile by landing a few good shots. Carney got a couple of games for pummelling the Widnes winger earlier this year, I'd rather be missing time for that than a nonsense ineffective half head butt.
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| It's SL's equivalent to Zidane headbutting Materazzi
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| He almost sounds as bad as the Wigan fans in 2010
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| he will be fine to play in the semi final is what i reckon.... was a terrible heads gone moment and he deserved a red card.
2 match ban i think
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| Though I'm not sure a half head butt is possible with a forehead of that size! Maybe his ban should be double, as it could count as a double head butt
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| Quote ="meast"he will be fine to play in the semi final is what i reckon.... was a terrible heads gone moment and he deserved a red card.
2 match ban i think'"
Good to see a ref have the nuts to send a player off. Sinfield has a clean record and redhall in his pocket. Might get a few games but i recon sending off sufficient.
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| If the rules state 4-8 match ban I'd expect and hope he would get a 4 match ban; but I'd be upset if he got any more than that.
Not sure whether my estimation of him has gone down really; it's nice to see he has some spark in him for once. Costing Leeds a point is disappointing but relatively trivial; OTOH costing Leeds any chance in the CC semi, which his absence almost certainly would do, is by far the most important result of the whole incident.
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