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| Given his stated objective, unless he has a crystal ball, that was a wasted discussion.
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| First in a long line of mercenaries. no great loss to Bradford.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"First in a long line of mercenaries. no great loss to Bradford.'"
First? I'm pretty sure others have jumped ship for cash before
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| Quote ="Chris28"First? I'm pretty sure others have jumped ship for cash before'"
Correct, here's just a few who have previously left Salford for such cash;
David Stephenson
Colin Whitfield
Ged Byrne
Paul Groves
Darren Bloor
Paul Fletcher
Terry O'Connor
Scott Naylor
Nathan McAvoy
Hudson Smith
Andy Coley
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Jordan Turner
Daniel Holdsworth
Joel Moon
It's nice to be on the receiving end for a change.
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| Quote ="Chris28"First? I'm pretty sure others have jumped ship for cash before'"
I meant under the new ownership.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Correct, here's just a few who have previously left Salford for such cash;
David Stephenson
Colin Whitfield
Ged Byrne
Paul Groves
Darren Bloor
Paul Fletcher
Terry O'Connor
Scott Naylor
Nathan McAvoy
Hudson Smith
Andy Coley
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Jordan Turner
Daniel Holdsworth
Joel Moon
It's nice to be on the receiving end for a change.'"
how many of those left for the cash, or left to actually achieve something in their career?
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Correct, here's just a few who have previously left Salford for such cash;
David Stephenson
Colin Whitfield
Ged Byrne
Paul Groves
Darren Bloor
Paul Fletcher
Terry O'Connor
Scott Naylor
Nathan McAvoy
Hudson Smith
Andy Coley
Richie Myler
Stefan Ratchford
Jordan Turner
Daniel Holdsworth
Joel Moon
It's nice to be on the receiving end for a change.'"
how many players have salford released cos they're not good enough for salford?
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| Quote ="EHW"how many of those left for the cash, or left to actually achieve something in their career?'"
I'm pretty certain that in all those cases (bar Homesick Hudson) it was a bit of both so I'm not really sure what point you're making there. In the case of Whitehead, we have to start somewhere and he might not even agree to come!
Also, it's no coincidence that Wigan, Bradford, Saints & Warrington figure highly in the list of destinations for those players given the era each player belongs to and the fact that in almost every case those clubs, at that given point in time, had the financial muscle to hoover up players from less well off clubs to either begin, maintain or further bolster their push for honours. In fact, just like the Snape era at Salford in the late 60's and early 70's, where we bought the likes of Colin Dixon and Steve Nash because we had the financial muscle to do so and we wanted to win things, which we did.
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| Whitehead has rejected a move to Salford.
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| There, see, he hasn't agreed to come after all, maybe he'll regret it one day, maybe he won't. We move on and the money is still available for someone who does want to come.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Can't see him getting in the Salford side next year anyway. Must be 6th or 7th down the pecking order with Hock, Morley, Tickle, Carvell, Paterson, Hauraki and Kirmond all on board.'"
Oh, hello. Do you automatically start to masturbate with every mention of Salford and/or Koukash? Could get awkward if you're reading the news in public.
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| Quote ="GT"Oh, hello. Do you automatically start to masturbate with every mention of Salford and/or Koukash? Could get awkward if you're reading the news in public.'"
Not used to this media-attention are we ?
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| Not used to being commented about full stop...
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Not used to this media-attention are we ?'"
Considering other sports and clubs I follow, yes, yes I am. You, however, seem to have a real issue with it all and one hell of an obsession with Salford. I think it's cute, to be honest.
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| I wouldn't call it an obsession - I'm very interested in the concept of the "ownership model" that Salford have adopted recently. The speed in which success is paramount and will happen at all costs has taken the game in the UK by surprize. One mans quest for glory against all odds is the stuff dreams are made of.
I find it quite exiting to be honest.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I wouldn't call it an obsession - I'm very interested in the concept of the "ownership model" that Salford have adopted recently. The speed in which success is paramount and will happen at all costs has taken the game in the UK by surprize. One mans quest for glory against all odds is the stuff dreams are made of.
I find it quite exiting to be honest.'"
The alternative "cease to exist model" didn't gain much favour.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"The alternative "cease to exist model" didn't gain much favour.'"
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I wouldn't call it an obsession'"
You're jumping on every single little discussion that is Salford related. Even showing glee when things go against us. I know what I'd call that...
Quote ="Tigerade"I'm very interested in the concept of the "ownership model" that Salford have adopted recently.'"
I believe that question has been answered very well indeed in an above post.
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| Quote ="GT"You're jumping on every single little discussion that is Salford related.'"
Sorry - didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.
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| Whitehead to Salford? Non.
Not sure how Salford missed it if they have so much funding.
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| Quote ="Richie"Whitehead to Salford? Non.
Not sure how Salford missed it if they have so much funding.'"
Turns out, Whitehead was serious about wanting to go to a top 4 club. I'm not looking to attract abuse for this but Salford are NOT top 4 material at present. Also their seeming failure to capture any of these high profile names they've gone for so far suggests they won't be top 4 material any time soon.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Turns out, Whitehead was serious about wanting to go to a top 4 club. I'm not looking to attract abuse for this but Salford are NOT top 4 material at present. Also their seeming failure to capture any of these high profile names they've gone for so far suggests they won't be top 4 material any time soon.'"
I think that is the main problem.Signing up the first few big names is going to be the tough part due to Salfords current league status.When /If they can achieve this League position will take care of itself and then attracting the top end players will become much easier.Its clearly going to take time though.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I think that is the main problem.Signing up the first few big names is going to be the tough part due to Salfords current league status.When /If they can achieve this League position will take care of itself and then attracting the top end players will become much easier.Its clearly going to take time though.'"
Nail on head - those of us of a less light headed nature than some of our supporters have been saying this for a while - what "super-star" would commit to Salford now? There has to be a building process now that we appear to have substantial funding and stability, if next season we can be competing in every game and finishing in the top 8 with a reasonable play off performance, then and only then will players start to believe that Salford could be an attractive place to be.
The good news from my perspective as a long time SCR fan (so well used to false dawns) is that Nobby & the Dr appear to be doing just that, an announcement due on 9th August of, I believe, 8 new signings that I would expect to be a mixture of experience and promise then hopefully we build from there.
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| Now - would all anti Salford 'growlers' please copy & paste Barton's post above and await August 10th for their next post on the Subject.
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