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| A mullering live on the BBC.
Bryson Goodwin is a classy footballer.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"The intent was the same. Nothing wrong with referees taking a tough line,but got to be consistent.'"
Don't think there was any bad intent in either but the end results were very different so can't be treated "consistently"
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| The only thing now that can save the existence of the Toronto franchise is for management to get rid of anyone at the club who have any connection with Leigh as it’s obvious this is the root of their discipline problems.
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| Quote ="Seth"The only ones responsible for ruining the game are Toronto, not Warrington or the ref.'"
This. Their coach is Rowley fgs.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"A mullering live on the BBC.
Bryson Goodwin is a classy footballer.'"
Yes, considering how little league we see on terrestrial TV, this wasn't much of an advert for the sport.
Likewise, I might add, the "Watersplash Final" the BBC are making such a fuss about. An unfortunate incident which, if anything, makes the sport look a bit of a joke. If you wanted to put some historic footage of league on the BBC, couldn't something a bit more positive have been shown?
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| On a side note, Jon Wilkin looks pretty for the cameras.....rofl
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Toronto were just not set for the niggle that Warrington brought to this game in the first half. As soon as Warrington realised they were being out played they brought in the niggle and Toronto fell for it and have not wised up.
Sadly ruined a promising game'"
Completely backward post.
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| Quote ="moto748"Yes, considering how little league we see on terrestrial TV, this wasn't much of an advert for the sport.
Likewise, I might add, the "Watersplash Final" the BBC are making such a fuss about. An unfortunate incident which, if anything, makes the sport look a bit of a joke. If you wanted to put some historic footage of league on the BBC, couldn't something a bit more positive have been shown?'"
The watersplash final is history the story of the game the way if ended, the player it happened to. Its an iconic moment in our sport and its the anniversary of it.
If you can’t see the value of celebrating that, then your an idiot.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Legs went in the air but they got him down on his back, Kay's one ended up with the player going head first into the ground.'"
letter of the law, just like that soft punch after being poked in the face and neck grappled. That's why the toronto captain was frustrated with thaler because yet again inconsistent refereeing, he was right in that and Thaler shown up for a talentless bag of e from the ganson school of refereeing.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"letter of the law, just like that soft booty punch after being poked in the face and neck grappled. That's why the toronto captain was frustarted with thaler because yet again inconsistent refereeing.'"
It's not letter of the law that if the legs go in the air it's a yellow, it's dependant on how the player is brought back down and significant difference in the two incidents.
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| Great first 30 minutes from Toronto but, following the sin binning they were embarrassing.
It was as cringeworthy as an amateur game on You Tube, Lock Lane v Redhill ??
What was the Toronto captain thinking ? he must have been worried that there would be no hot water left !
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| Quote ="Seth"The only ones responsible for ruining the game are Toronto, not Warrington or the ref.'"
It’s Rowley, he’s a right house
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Toronto were just not set for the niggle that Warrington brought to this game in the first half. As soon as Warrington realised they were being out played they brought in the niggle and Toronto fell for it and have not wised up.
Sadly ruined a promising game'"
Warrington much better at managing the referees inconsistency, so they could manage their niggle and he'd never follow up on his threats. Toronto lost their cool at the way Warrington were able to shape the refereeing. That's game smarts. Lack of discipline doesn't reflect well on Toronto, but it is an indictment of refereeing standards that the referee lacked the smarts and the discipline not to be managed in that way. But are there any referees left in the UK game who can do better? I'm not sure a Russell Smith or a Steve Ganson would be so malleable to a team like Warrington back in the day, not over the course of an entire game anyway.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"The only thing now that can save the existence of the Toronto franchise is for management to get rid of anyone at the club who have any connection with Leigh as it’s obvious this is the root of their discipline problems.
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king moron what are you on about ?
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| People on here and other social media blaming it on Warrington and the referee and saying he was poor.
They must be trolling, they can't be that daft.
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| At least Mr multiple account holder can keep his Toronto c0ck in his pants this week. Rowley's bar room brawlers are a joke.
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| Toronto were excellent 1st half....and then ended up being a disgrace to the proud history of Canadian RL !
What do you reckon Sir Kevin, King James and Jean....can't quite hear you.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"The only thing now that can save the existence of the Toronto franchise is for management to get rid of anyone at the club who have any connection with Leigh as it’s obvious this is the root of their discipline problems.
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King James'"
I know you are only looking for an OTT reaction, but we only had a reputation as a 'dirty side' when Rowley was our coach. Do you understand love ?
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| Irrespective of all the shenanigans, why would Dixon want to get himself sent off?
Everyone knows it's an automatic red, presumably everyone except Dixon.
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| This game and the Fev v Hull game from Thurs have shown an ugly side to RL, but the difference is that Fev had lost the game before it became a mess. Toronto were competing and looking good for the lead and then threw it away, where as Warrington kept their heads unlike Hull.
Makes me wonder if they can compete in the Middle 8s if they feel they need to resort to these sort of tactics
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"People on here and other social media blaming it on Warrington and the referee and saying he was poor.
They must be trolling, they can't be that daft.'"
I think the referee was poor not because he took a tough line on Toronto but because he failed to do the same with Warrington. He gave loads of warnings to both sides about dirty tactics but only one of them got hammered with cards. If ref's gonna be tough, fine, but stick to it for both sides. It became a bit of a vicious circle, he wasn't consistent when it came to following up, that got the Toronto players upset because the refereeing wasn't on the level, and they failed to hold their discipline which made it worse. I blame Toronto players for that. But I also blame the referee for his lack of discipline following up with both sides. If he'd played it straight we'd probably have had a less one sided game. Now fair credit to Warrington, they had the smarts to manage the referee and that probably lead to some of the inconsistency, but that does not do the referee any credit.
This is part of the reason RL lacks credibility, there's no consistency.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"I think the referee was poor not because he took a tough line on Toronto but because he failed to do the same with Warrington.'"
Because Warrington weren't embarrassingly ill disciplined like Toronto.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Because Warrington weren't embarrassingly ill disciplined like Toronto.'"
In which case why did he did repeatedly threaten to do something about their ill discipline (the running in and niggling etc)? If it didn't exist he didn't have cause to warn on it,and if he had no reason to follow up why repeatedly threaten to do so without actually making good? This entire line of reasoning is inconsistent!
Perhaps RL should rebrand itself as the sport for the post truth age? The only thing that's consistent is the inconsistency.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Because Warrington weren't embarrassingly ill disciplined like Toronto.'"
Very true they knew where to push the line. Give a bit of niggle in the tackle then play the innocent when it's out in the open. But most of all keep your mouth shut and say yes sir to the ref. You can get away with alot more if you don't lose your head and always remember to respect the ref. Toronto lost the basic rule that the ref is always right. Even when he is wrong he is right.
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