Depends how the games at Elland Road go

Current capacity is 20,500 and the South Stand had its capacity reduced from 8,000 to 6,000 after the remedial repairs done on it.


I'd be suprised if we have more than a couple of games away from Headingley as the majority of the work will be done in the off-season and its a lot simpler build than the Carnegie Stand was.

What are the redevelopment plans at Headingley?

Basically a straight replacement for the South Stand, with a slight decrease on the old, pre-repairs capacity of 8,000 to 7,400 and wider concourse at the back with more toilets etc.

There were plans a few years ago for a new North Stand but they were shelved when the cricket couldn't afford their share of it. But as the cricket are wanting to redevelop the ground now I would think that in a couple of years the North Stand will be knocked down and rebuilt.

As for the Western Terrace, well thats a tricky one due to the houses behind it. There was a rumour that Leeds had bought some of the houses but how reliable that is I don't know. I can't see much being done with the Western Terrace in the next few years, although a new scoreboard wouldn't go amiss.

Plan was to redo the north stand in conjunction with the cricket, but in what in hindsight is a very fortunate coincidence the cricket club received third party funds to rebuild another stand and add new media facilities which meant the north stand wouldnt be done for a few years anyway. Then the issues with the some prior refurbishment of the southstand were discovered which meant that would need to be re-done sooner.

So this offseason the southstand will be rebuilt. Then in conjunction with the cricket the northstand will be rebuilt. Due to council constraints thats likely to be it for the time being as the homowners around the paddock complain about any planned rebuilding of that end, plus there is a public right of way behind it which restricts opportunities there.

The capacity when the southstand is rebuilt will be about 22k (similar to before the safety issues) and i would expect if there were to ever be any increase in ground size it would be at the northstand anyway. The Cricket club are looking to add another 3k on the north stand, which if that comes from building up means there is no reason the rugby stand cant do the same, which would give a new capacity of around 25k. If that is the case i would hope Caddick and hetherington are aiming for an average of AT LEAST 20k

nrl :

overall average 17,582

best :

broncos 40,427
storm 25,480
souths 20,078
tigers 19,870
dogs 18,314

worst

sharks 11,925
panthers 12,060
manly 14,097

think wigan will be looking at a crowd of about 16000 this week vs quins

our marketing team on fire again by filling the north stand with worthingtons and heinz purchasing the stand for their employees

and £10,000 worth of tickets donated to the army to help celebrate st.georges day

Outstanding effort again from the marketing department at Wigan. Together with Hull FC, Wire and Wakey, it shows that if you make the effort you can make up the shortfall when quins are in town.

Thinking more 17k myself with a decent walk-up.

Just out of interest who does the stats pages on this site as some of them appear wrong? Looked at the table for our average and it's just below 7K not 7448 and whilst not wishing to pick on expansionist cousins I don't think Quins have an average of 7558!

The stats are for all games (home and away) that feature the team. If you are really interested, I can send you a nice colourful spreadsheet with every London home gate since 2000.....

Go to your teams page on slstats and the landing page will give you the home fixtures for the season. [url=http://www.slstats.org/t12/Harlequins+RL/2010/Summary.htmlHERES QUINS[/url
3,176 is the average for SL this season (for some reason, the cup game v Wakey has popped up in there as well)
The attendances given on slstats.org are normally pretty correct, but I do check them against other reports.

wigans crowd of almost 18,000 vs quins is just brilliant, shame they lost

ill bet theyll be getting quite a few crowds over 20,0000 this year

theyll top the crowd averages

the sleeping giant has awoken under maguire!

Have to say that Wigans marketing and promotionla team seem to have moved up a gear since IL took over at the club. A 13,700 average last year and a 4k increase this year on the quins game against 2008 is a sign that the commercial department understand the need to keep marketing the game rather than emplying the field of dreams tactics of some clubs.
That and the improvement on the pitch would seem to all bode well for the club and its fans.

The Marketing Director came from Bulls. Goes to show what he has been able to do with a big marketing budget.

Those who look to Wigan's big rise in crowds and Bulls' tail-off need look no further for a major explanation than the marketing budget made available to the marketing team. That is one of the massive advantages of having a wealthy owner.

How does that relate to profit though.
Hypothetically if they're giving tickets away for next to nothing then they aren't making any money. I dont remember reading about their books recently.

We at Wire need an expansion, losing a quarter million a year we could definately add to our gate

Who is giving tickets away? 4,000 tickets were bought by sponsors.

Cant agree with you there squire, imo Wigans big rise in crowds is because of the rugby they are now playing as against some of the rubbish dished out under Noble, and all the fans what voted with their feet are now coming back because of the rugby played, and iirc its exactly the same players for both coaches'. If you want further comfirmation look no farther than Hudds to see that their wealthy owner has thrown good money at it and where are their crowds?

exactly!

wigan averaged 15,000 or close to it when they were running last

most famous RL club in england and the new ground helps.

fans now have gotten over the loss of central park

Our marketing team are the best in super league, the RFL should use them IMO!

We are looking at 2 sell-outs this year along with another very healthy crowd against Cas for the rugby festival, along with great crowds we have already got.

Next year should be even better if we finish well, some of our crowds at the start of the year were poor really.

Average should be around 15-16k.

With more success on the field next year I think it will be pushed up to 17k.

What you've unsurprisingly missed is the relative starting points of the two clubs. Huddersfield crowds have actually more than doubled in the last 6 years or so.

So your point is totally flawed. Especially taking into account crowds under Noble at Wigan compare favourably to those prior to his arrival.

Its good for the club that its attendances have doubled in the past few years given the money spent by your owner, they could not have got much worse than they were. Given the fact that you have one of the best grounds in SL, your team are playing out of their skin with a top Coach in charge, discount entrance fees cheap ST etc there is not much more your owner can do yet your supporters still fail to turn up, KR in the cup was a classic example they brought more than you did. And as for Wigan similar ground similar everything except the one most important of them all they support their team in numbers what is your excuse? btw I see you still havent learned to spell

Why do you make up stuff to try and prove an imaginary point?

Discount entrance fees? £20 on the gate, £18 pre-booked.
Discount season tickets? I paid £175 for mine.
KR brought more than us? Nope, although they did bring a very healthy 2,700 it is less than half the crowd.
Average gate this season >8,300. I'd worry about your own crowds seeing as they along with Cas, Salford, Quins, Les Catalans and Crusaders are all behind that figure this season.
As for Wigans crowd, well, as I pointed out in my last post you should compare the recent histories and gate figures.

Do yourself a favour. Crawl back in your hole stick to topics you have half a clue about. I include spelling in that.

So doubling attendences isnt doing much is it?

chissitt you're an idiot (yes, I think thats the correct spelling) who knows next to nothing and takes less than that into account.

No one in Huddersfield says our crowds are good, then again no one in Huddersfield says we have finished working on them growing yet either but we can still say that they are growing...and while they are playing well (though there are plenty about here still say they are a boring, spoiling team...) they still havent won anything, and nothing gets bums on seats like real, tangible success.

But Hudds are doing ok, in the scheme of things. Other clubs maybe have to ask why they arent getting full houses each week, or maybe should ask where their tens of thousands of fans have gone now.

Actually, well said Danril

Cheers for the explanation but I'll pass on the colourful spreadsheet

And your point is what exactly? other than to throw insults at me, of course they are doing well if you clear the red mist away from your eyes you will see that I have pointed that out. The only thing I am saying is that for what your MD has thrown at the club financially your support is abysmal, hope that is clear enough for you. Oh and btw please dont lower your standards to that of your neighbour by reigning insults at me if you cant reply without abuse then please dont bother, btw your spelling is a credit to you squire.