What, better than the Tigers and KR sides that came up and stayed up ?

We can say very good and that they were a touch unlucky but, if they were the best promoted side, since the beginning of SL, they would have stayed in SL.

Both Tigers and HKR promoted sides were pretty decent but if you put into comparison where London have come from - a massively lower budget and turnover than those two clubs and the contribution of failings clubs like Bulls and Widnes that contributed to both Tigers and HKR surviving the year they got back in. They have basically gone into SL with a championship team. To get 10 wins has been nothing but a miracle for London IMO.

They would have done it for Leeds!

Agreed

Agreed.... Better team won

I agree we should be expanding to 14. However, that only brings a temporary reprieve from promotion and relegation as the following seasons we will still have a team going down and one coming up.

I know people say relegation hurts the team going down, but no promotion hurts all teams coming up. Why would Toronto, toulouse, Bradford, York invest in their sides to just stay where they are.

Since p&r has come back under either formula the standard of the next league has improved.

The difficulty with getting a super league with 12+ teams is self interest from incumbent teams not wanting to share TV finance.

Short term financal gain over riding longer term strategy and a potential longer term improvement in finance.

A club whose fans were all over this site in recent years demanding to be taken serious as an 'established top five club' getting all giddy at beating the mighty London to dodge the drop by a narrow margin.



Well done.

I would say that is disparaging to both clubs you mention here. Go and have a lie down owd lad.

Just received your PM........



Are you on the right medication?

To be fair any team with the injuries we’ve had to put up with would probably struggle!

What was it that got said last night...21 operations between them...

Last night missing three dream team members, one our top try scorer, the other top metre maker...our two most destructive forwards Fifita and Pauli...Anthony England, vastly experienced...Arona probably one of the most underrated players in the comp and James Batchelor one of the brightest prospects in the game...any team is going to miss that quality throughout the large parts of the season...

We ended up 4 wins short of 5th place and I’d argue if injuries had been kinder we wouldn’t have been far away from getting four more wins...

We’re in good company anyway because Leeds finished 9th in 2016 the year after winning the treble and Warrington finished 9th in 2017 the year after reaching both finals...which just highlights any team can finish that low if things go against you...

It's the refs fault. If only we got a fair crack we'd be challenging St Helens. Not fighting relegation.

(That's how it goes, right?)

As Cokey said. I think you and your multiple troll accounts really need some help.

He always gets worked up when his benefits are late.

P.S somebody please screenshot this because no doubt itll get deleted. Again.

shut up fool

Wakefield are better than their position in the league injuries or not.

Their fans had every right to expect a top five finish imo.

Truth of the matter there isnt that much difference in quality between 5th and 12th this season. Bounce of the ball here, injury there. Only Saints have really excelled. At the start of the year I reckond Triniry could finish anywhere between 5th and 10th. I suppose there are a number of clubs supporters who could say the same.

Correct, people complain about their own clubs performances being inconsistent, but in the same breath require the league to be competitive. (you can't have both.)


The last game of the season, with only catalan, Leeds and Saints having little to play for is not a bad result for the league and keeps interest across the board.

Just goes to show a top 8 playoff is not the only way to keep clubs involved for a whole season.

Nobody can disagree with you but, London surprised everyone and had the pre season predictions been right, the lower half of the league would have been playing "dead rubbers" for the last 5/6 weeks.
I guess that it will all depend on the quality of any promoted side and for those already in SL, ensuring that the wheels dont all come off at the same time.

Yep, London were the key, nobody expected them to be so competitive, which is good. However, I doubt you'll see four teams on 20 points with one game to go again any time soon. Tight hopefully but not that tight, it's not a one-off but it was unusual, effectively you had three Million pound games, not the usual one.

If the pre season predictions had been anywhere near right, there wouldn't have been anything close to a MPG, just a series of meaningless games.
I suppose it's testament to the improving quality at the top of The Championship, that London were so competitive. Of course, the opposite could be true, in that SL has dropped down to the level of the second tier.

Bit of both I suspect.

My pessimism (and predictions) proved to be way off, thankfully. WT dominated the game from the off, and never really looked like losing - which surprised me.

Obviously happy to have retained a SL place in difficult circumstances, but I have huge empathy with the London players, staff and supporters; they shook up SL against all predictions, and played really entertaining rugby, in the right spirit. It's a shame they won't be involved next year - they've added more in one season than Toronto ever will.

Yep, only in RL could we spend 30+ years creating a London team and when we finally get one that's finally what I'd call a genuine team and they are to be replaced by a team that I just can't see having any real longevity.

London develops players, develops the game in London - Toronto don't as far as I'm aware even have one Candian in the team 0r any kind of development set up - all the above need to come first as London has just demonstrated but we never learn.

The most apt post of the season and possibly of the SL era

Except they didn’t come first did they. It’s taken 20 years to get to the position London are now in with some decent grassroots.

It’s daft to assume Toronto would suddenly produce a Canadian good enough. They need 10 years+ of consistent investment in a full time league first.

You come back in ten years and we'll discuss Toronto in the past tense, I promise you that. As I say some people never learn, all pie in the sky nonsense that continually costs the game.