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| Quote ="Old Darlin"Don't forget your hampers...
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RL Double header featuring the best 4 teams in the world...44k
Kick and Clap featuring the #1 team v England (#5?)......80k.......regardless of the dietary needs of the fans....the point is the crowd, the revenus and the kudos....and the pages of coverage in Sundays papers.....tony C scores 4 tries for his country...I bet you 10 to 1 that the rowing gold medals get more coverage.......stop f()cking worrying about Union...it just makes you look sad  |
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the crowd last night at eden park was metioned as the biggest there this year of either rugby code
clear to see RL is making massive inroads in unions heartland of nz
a 2nd nz nrl side will do massive damage to union
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"Games between Australia v New Zealand in rugby league are close to the best international sport in the world at the moment'"
Aus v NZ is a great rivalry in lots of sports - I tend to support the underdog so I favour the Wallabies in rugby union, black caps in cricket, and Kiwis in rugby league.
And I agree that some of the recent rugby league games between the two have been incredible. The 2008 world cup final was one of the best games I've ever seen in any sport - it was absolutely ferocious. The fitness levels and skill on show that day was as good as anything you'll find in world sport.
I'm ashamed to admit that I couldn't be bothered to get up to watch England play recently - I stayed in bed and listened to the Aus game on the radio but fell back to sleep early in the 2nd half when it was fairly clear that we were heading for another defeat.
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No Oz v Kiwi match should ever be held outside of NZ! Great crowd for waht was effectively a nothing game in terms of importance.
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agreed
the best part of this tourney has been the crowds in nz.
somehow weve got to have an annual 3 match series between the kiwis and roos, like origin, with each nation getting 2 home games, then swapping over.
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Cities should be rewarded and punished for their crowds. A city which puts the effort in, promotes the game and gets a good crowd should be rewarded with more games in the future while somewhere that draws a modest or frankly embarrassing attendance should be put to the back of the queue until they show they are capable of doing an international rugby league game justice.
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What I would love to know is why is it that when Australia beat England at home by 20 points it is commented on as the continued slow death of international Rugby League and yet when they beat New Zealand by 14 points away from home it is one of the finest contests in world sport?
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| Quote ="Dunbar"What I would love to know is why is it that when Australia beat England at home by 20 points it is commented on as the continued slow death of international Rugby League and yet when they beat New Zealand by 14 points away from home it is one of the finest contests in world sport?'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Just the press (and sadly that includes the RL press) doing what they always do.'"
It's not just the press though is it, it’s the also the vast majority of the posters on forums like this too and we are supposed to be the people who love Rugby League and crave its success |
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Ocres in NRL would be a huge achievement for the sport. So, why do we always play the ANZAC Tests in Australia? Let's get it to Eden, have Tonga vs Samoa there as a curtain raiser, and make a big deal of it.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"What I would love to know is why is it that when Australia beat England at home by 20 points it is commented on as the continued slow death of international Rugby League and yet when they beat New Zealand by 14 points away from home it is one of the finest contests in world sport?'"
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| Quote ="Dunbar"It's not just the press though is it, it’s the also the vast majority of the posters on forums like this too and we are supposed to be the people who love Rugby League and crave its success'"
Don't get me started on that topic. The flak I copped trying to talk up the French international and international rugby league on the Wigan board! |
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"good read...
tonyhannan.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/theyre-having-a-laugh-arent-they/'"
An appetite for the code is there but, in terms of bums on seats, it is never quite hungry enough. The subsequent car crash is is not only terrible for the image of the sport, it is grossly unfair on those who have worked hard to bang the drum and get the thing going in the first place. Having had my own traumatic experiences with Gateshead Thunder in the late 1990s to draw on, I know of that which I speak. Soul-destroying doesn’t begin to cover it. All your selfless efforts have come to nothing; you feel betrayed and unvalued. =#BF0000Which then makes it all the harder to bear when fans of those aforementioned ‘traditional’ clubs start dancing gleefully on your grave, another dependable and very ugly rugby league phenomenon. This is supposed to be a family game, isn’t it? Or is that only when it suits?
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shocking write up of the game in Sunday Times here in Oz today. Instead of talking up the great atmosphere and exciting game, Benji magic, tough Aussie running it was all about the negatives. Booing of the Aussie anthem, throwing of bottles by "large sections of the crowd" etc. Right next door to it was another 1/2 page on Monaghan quitting. Any neutral sports fan would have picked up todays paper and gone away with a very dim opinion of RL sadly.
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Excellent read, thanks for posting it
I couldn’t agree more with it... there could not be a bigger difference between the way the two sets of supporters of League and Union discuss their respective sports. If we are ever to expect the media to talk up our great sport then we should at least do it ourselves, it is our sport after all
I’ve lost count of the number of times I hear people say that international League is not competitive and we should give up on it and concentrate on clubs etc but I’m sure they would be surprised to hear that the New Zealand Union team have played 111 games against teams from the British Isles, winning 98 (88%) – hell, they have even beaten the Lions 29 times out of the 38 games played. As it says in the article, Scotland and Ireland have NEVER beaten the All Blacks
The reason why we would be surprised is because Union fans and officials don’t talk down their sport at every opportunity and continue the pretence that it is an ultra competitive and thriving international scene. Say something often enough and with enough conviction and it will happen... I hope the people who people who say international League is a joke understand that and can live with the consequences |
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Excellent read, thanks for posting it
I couldn’t agree more with it... there could not be a bigger difference between the way the two sets of supporters of League and Union discuss their respective sports. If we are ever to expect the media to talk up our great sport then we should at least do it ourselves, it is our sport after all
I’ve lost count of the number of times I hear people say that international League is not competitive and we should give up on it and concentrate on clubs etc but I’m sure they would be surprised to hear that the New Zealand Union team have played 111 games against teams from the British Isles, winning 98 (88%) – hell, they have even beaten the Lions 29 times out of the 38 games played. As it says in the article, Scotland and Ireland have NEVER beaten the All Blacks
The reason why we would be surprised is because Union fans and officials don’t talk down their sport at every opportunity and continue the pretence that it is an ultra competitive and thriving international scene. Say something often enough and with enough conviction and it will happen... I hope the people who people who say international League is a joke understand that and can live with the consequences | |
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| Quote ="Dunbar"What I would love to know is why is it that when Australia beat England at home by 20 points it is commented on as the continued slow death of international Rugby League and yet when they beat New Zealand by 14 points away from home it is one of the finest contests in world sport?'"
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I have to agree. One of the things I've always found on this forum is that there seems to be a glass half empty attitude amongst many rugby league fans. Don't get me wrong, I don't like blind loyalty or arrogance, but I like to see people being positive and getting behind the things they believe in. After all, how can you expect to enthuse other people if you're not showing any enthuisasm yourself?
It annoys the hell out of me that the Australians have the origin series but we have nothing. And yet whenever someone suggests a Yorkshire v Lancashire equivalent, there is always the same old voices hammering the idea down. Do you ever hear people from Oxford or Cambridge University slating The Boat Race? No. They get behind the event and help make it the spectacle it is - apparently 5 million UK tv viewers tune in to watch it so they must be doing something right.
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I have to agree. One of the things I've always found on this forum is that there seems to be a glass half empty attitude amongst many rugby league fans. Don't get me wrong, I don't like blind loyalty or arrogance, but I like to see people being positive and getting behind the things they believe in. After all, how can you expect to enthuse other people if you're not showing any enthuisasm yourself?
It annoys the hell out of me that the Australians have the origin series but we have nothing. And yet whenever someone suggests a Yorkshire v Lancashire equivalent, there is always the same old voices hammering the idea down. Do you ever hear people from Oxford or Cambridge University slating The Boat Race? No. They get behind the event and help make it the spectacle it is - apparently 5 million UK tv viewers tune in to watch it so they must be doing something right.
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But they have interstate rivalry.
Since 74, we've all been in cheshire, the saints are merseyside and wigan are greater manchester. When the last counties game was on me grandad took pride in the whole lancashire thing; I personally couldnt give two stuffs and neither could most of the younger generation
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| Quote ="saint george"It annoys the hell out of me that the Australians have the origin series but we have nothing. And yet whenever someone suggests a Yorkshire v Lancashire equivalent, there is always the same old voices hammering the idea down. Do you ever hear people from Oxford or Cambridge University slating The Boat Race? No. They get behind the event and help make it the spectacle it is - apparently 5 million UK tv viewers tune in to watch it so they must be doing something right.'"
I thought Roses game failed cos hardly any buggar turned up.
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| Quote ="Dico"But they have interstate rivalry.
Since 74, we've all been in cheshire, the saints are merseyside and=#BF0000 wigan are greater manchester. When the last counties game was on me grandad took pride in the whole lancashire thing; I personally couldnt give two stuffs and neither could most of the younger generation'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...stop f()cking worrying about Union...it just makes you look sad
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I don't worry about it at all.
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Good to see some general agreement on some of the fundamental issues...
Misinformation and exposure.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"I thought Roses game failed cos hardly any buggar turned up.'"
Blatant Misinformation never helps either
Last Roses game had about 12000 (yes, twelve thousand) there at Headingly for a midweek game.
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| Quote ="Code13"Blatant Misinformation never helps either
Last Roses game had about 12000 (yes, twelve thousand) there at Headingly for a midweek game.
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