For junior development; which is the life blood of any club - you only have to look at the benefits the Rhinos have gained from a coherent youth development programs - he was a disaster.

The long term implications of Raper's time at Cas was relegation?

At Wigan the team really under performed and given he is now plying his trade as a TV pundit that would suggest his coaching credentials are dubious at best - having said that I would still rather have him the McRae; the triumph of front over substance

=#8040FFHe might have "saved" the club but he told Ellis he was TOO SMALL and would NEVER make it as an RL player...good call Stu

He never played for Cas at any level.

Amature clubs in the UK are not affiliated to senior clubs, there is no such thing as a "Junior" club. Some clubs have an historical connection that is all. Stanley Rangers from Wakeefield have produced as many players for Cas as Wakey.

He grew up in Selby.

Castleford is a suburb of Wakey.

Richard Owen born 25 November 1991 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England is a rugby league player for the Castleford Tigers in the European Super League, he also played for Oulton Raiders in his youth. So who created this lad, Leeds, Wakefield or Cas?



How clueless are you, get your facts straight at least try to troll well.

Incorrect. He's a Marist College North Shore boy. And despite hm playing for one season in the Balmain Leagues his junior club is Asquiths (like Kieron and Liam Foran). A North Sydney District Club. He played for Norths in the juniors too before the Roosters offered him a spot.

Point is, he did play at all these clubs, so who can say they developed him?

maybe cas lock lane should just change their name to wakey lock lane.

im so disappointed he left the working class to go to such a snobby school.

junior should know better.

my answer to your question is all the clubs contributed, but clearly norths contributed the most there didnt they.

so :

cas junior club > wakey juniors > ??? > leeds rhinos > wests tigers.

had he not played for leeds or a big SL club would the tigers have bothered?

indeed how much can the wests tigers lay credit to for improving him?

or are we going to say adrian morley is such a good player from salford?

Can you not get this through your thick skull.

There is no such thing as "Wakey juniors" or such a thing as a "Cas junior club". These are things that exist in Australia not here. There are service areas which are Development Groups - defined by local authority or sports partnership boundaries depending on their geographical location. Cas falls within the same service area as Wakey.

Hence a 6 year old playing for Cas Panthers has no obligation other than personal choice to play for Cas rather than Wakey or Fev should he make the grade. There is no pathway that automatically leads to Cas or Wakefield at Lock Lane.

Get a grip man.

For christ sake

the fact that it has cas in the name sort of gives it away

by your logic if there were a junior club in wigan not tied to the warriors and st helens signed him, it would count the same way as above.

a junior club with cas in the name are in castleford. sorry

You freaking thick plonker..you're seriously doing your best here. He started his serious rugby league education (not playing u8s on a park) under the wakefield service area before being picked up young as a WAKEFIELD WILDCATS academy product.

As for the comment above he chose to go to leeds after warrington offered serious money. He was always going to make it to the top.

As I said he was never offered anything by Cas - there is difference between poaching and picking up disgarded players - so following Dally's logic because he played for Lock Lane and Cas didn't want him then he should not have been picked up by anyone? man is a joke but anyone who reads his stuff on the NRL board knows his knowledge of the NRL is non-existent so why anyone takes anything he has to say about the SL seriously defies belief IMO.

Man is a tool - something he confirms with every post.

I really shouldn't bite but your stupidity is reaching ever greater heights.

Lock Lane ARLFC are in Wakefield and Wakefield Service areas as are Castleford Panthers, Eastmoor, Stanley, Fetherstone Lions and Crigglestone. Castleford Tigers have no first dibs on lock lane players anymore than Wakey have with Stanley players - it doesn't work like that you thick idiot.

Both Hull clubs and Wigan Leigh share the same post code and the same service area and sign from the same clubs whilst Bradford and Hudds fight it out quite often for local players.

Why do you find this so hard to understand.

As for your Wigan comment, no amature clubs in Wigan are "tied" to Wigan, that is the fecking point, hence Saints will indeed sign Wigan based players if they see fit.

Try to listen and understand.

i get it.

even if a club has cas in its name, its not part of castleford.

there you have it.
You've got it.
In the UK all players until 16 are pooled to a service area, guess what, covering an area. From there they are picked up by professional clubs, often before 16.

More chance of seeing Shergar bolt through your back yard,with Elvis in the saddle.

Every topic he posts on becomes a waste of time,filled with factually incorrect information and utter sh ite

The guy has got to be either seriously deranged or just plain stupid!!!

He makes Harry and Lloyd in Dumb and Dumber look intelligent.

He also played at Westgate

Not that it matters to a sane person.

As long as you daft bugg ers keep replying to him , he'll keep posting bollox

I know it's hard to ignore , but you really must try

You don't get away with it that easy old luv. You have made yourself look a tool, pretending you were trolling all along rather that just being thick doesn't wash with me cocka. You're not fooling anyone.

so they wont be renaming cas lock lane to wakey lock lane then?

shucks.

No but i will rename you to Daily fecking feckless clueless knut.

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