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| Quote ="Jason65"Ok but it isnt the equivalent as everyone had the same chances as Wigan but Wigan did it better,as Saints have been doing as Leeds did it as did Bradford aswell.
Leeds when they won everything had the same chances as everyone else of course they did,just that they did it better as all other teams that win.
Other fans have really got to accept that Wigan were very good then and move on from coming up with reasons why they were good and stop blaming Wigan for their teams not being as good.
I for one accept that at various points that Bradford,Leeds and St helens have been great for a few years on and off (also Wigan have a won few things in super league aswell)
Success comes around for teams at various points yours might be starting who knows as could be ours (I would say it has started as we did win the CC),but good luck anyway.
As for Leigh,good on them I say.'"
Wigan are a great club, of course. Their youth system in particular is a shining example of that. However, I can remember being at Knowsley Road before a Derby and seeing players run across the grass outside in their work gear having worked the morning of the game. That was just before Super League. The idea that there was a level playing field in those days is way off. Saints might have been paying a few individuals enough to not work, particularly the overseas players, but there were plenty who were. And the majority of the league would have had less full time professionals than us. How Super League adapts back into semi-pro status is going to be interesting, as it's inevitably coming if things don't improve. The IMG changes have to be successful or we'll see those days again.
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| Quote ="Jason65"The amazing myth is that Wigan bought all the best players in that era.
What Wigan did was buy the players that would suit them like Hanley,Offiah etc with a combination of home grown players such as Faz,Gildart,Edwards,Radders,Marshall,Clark,Lucas etc.some not superstars like Cowie,Potter,Byrne,Mcginty etc
We just did it better than anyone else at the time.One thing we def did was get the best coaches Monie,Lowe which created a dynasty at the time.
We did go pro 94/95 season Leeds followed soon after,now they did try to buy their way to winning they even spent big money on the greatest full back ever from the All blacks but was not as successful.So for a good 8yrs or so Wigan was not full time-Faz was still training as joiner when he signed,Preston was trainng as a accountant,Clark was at college etc.
Re the stadium myth-Mr Whelan wanted a new stadium for the football but to get the funding he needed 2 different sports to share he toyed with the Idea with Orrell RU but dispelled that is would not work so he had bought Wigan Ath for £1 and because after the Whitbread stand costing too much Wigan were in a weak position so he bought them for 7million so now he owned his 2 different sports and so he built the stadium rest is history so to speak. He even flew back from his holiday home in Barbados to a AGM meeting at Wigan RL to buy all the shares he could get to get control and then flew back straight after.
Now this debate will go on for ever as there will always be someone to say Wigan bought,Wigan cheated,Wigan did this Wigan did that to win but the facts are they were dominant at the time and did it by being better than anyone at the time and did not cheat etc etc etc.'"
What a load of garbage , You leave out numerous players Wigan signed for big money which nearly sent them bust and led them to sell Central Park , Leeds followed suite not long after and paid big money for lesser players who were left after Wigan had picked the best and nearly went bust
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| I remember the last game at Central Park after Tesco saved Wigan from extinction. Thousands of tesco carrier bags flying through the air and chants of “let’s all shop at tescos”. They actually beat St Helen’s that day but it was only the St Helens fans you could hear
Now they are rent boys who are told what to do by daddy football team.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"What a load of garbage , You leave out numerous players Wigan signed for big money which nearly sent them bust and led them to sell Central Park , Leeds followed suite not long after and paid big money for lesser players who were left after Wigan had picked the best and nearly went bust'"
How is that garbage when I have put some names down of lesser players so to speak.
I have explained Mr Whelans role in this and the Whitbread stand,if you and other people chose not to believe then that is your problem.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"I remember the last game at Central Park after Tesco saved Wigan from extinction. Thousands of tesco carrier bags flying through the air and chants of “let’s all shop at tescos”. They actually beat St Helen’s that day but it was only the St Helens fans you could hear
Now they are rent boys who are told what to do by daddy football team.'"
The last game at Central Park when Wigan beat you lot ,I also do remember that,the Tesco bags to that extent had already been done in games before.
So no need to change that history .
I also remember the last game at Knowsley against Wigan,you lost that aswell.
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| Quote ="Jason65"The last game at Central Park when Wigan beat you lot ,I also do remember that,the Tesco bags to that extent had already been done in games before.
So no need to change that history .
I also remember the last game at Knowsley against Wigan,you lost that aswell.'"
But the 75-0 will be remembered more ![DANCE icon_biggrin.gifANCE:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_dance.gif)
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| Quote ="Rommel"But the 75-0 will be remembered more
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Actually 27-0 is remembered more. That won us the Challenge Cup. 75-0 won you a game and nothing else!
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| Quote ="Rommel"But the 75-0 will be remembered more
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27-0 at Wembley so much better than 75-0.
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| 75-0 was just utterly hilarious .
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"75-0 was just utterly hilarious .'"
64-14 (if I remember it correcty) wasnt too shabby for us,but CC 27-0 is so much better as it was in front of thousands and on BBC,we got the cup you got 2 points.
I know which one I prefer.
Always remember Andy Greg saying Wigan won 28-0,someone corrects him says no you are wrong it is 27-0 he says thats right I forget its 27 not 28 but I always remember
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| The impact of 75-0 was lessened by losing 70-0 to Leeds the week before IMO, it took away the shock value of getting hammered.
Agent Millward really did his best to destroy Wigan.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"The impact of 75-0 was lessened by losing 70-0 to Leeds the week before IMO, it took away the shock value of getting hammered.
Agent Millward really did his best to destroy Wigan.'"
Agree less of a impact is correct.
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| Wigan fans can try and damage control all they want but 75-0 is the score line that all rugby league fans remember and the most embarassing lmao
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Wigan fans can try and damage control all they want but 75-0 is the score line that all rugby league fans remember and the most embarassing lmao'"
And saints fans can convince themselves that 75-0 after a drubbing by leeds is better than a 27-0 at Wembley,I can guarantee that more fans/viewers remember the 27-0 cup win as opposed to a 75-0 loss in the league.
I was there at them both and the 75-0 was difficult but great as we was singing "always look on the bright side of life" until the end.
We knew we was crap you knew we was crap but it was fun,(Leeds and St Helens deserved it)but you lot thought you was good enough to win the CC final and that is the difference,this is why 27-0 is so much sweeter than 2 points.
I know you cannot understand this as you havnt the capacity for reasonable thought.
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| Quote ="Jason65"64-14 (if I remember it correcty) wasnt too shabby for us,but CC 27-0 is so much better as it was in front of thousands and on BBC,we got the cup you got 2 points.
I know which one I prefer.
Always remember Andy Greg saying Wigan won 28-0,someone corrects him says no you are wrong it is 27-0 he says thats right I forget its 27 not 28 but I always remember
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Saints didn't even get two points, it was a Challenge Cup match, their reward was getting knocked out by Hull in the next round!
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| Quote ="Jason65"And saints fans can convince themselves that 75-0 after a drubbing by leeds is better than a 27-0 at Wembley,I can guarantee that more fans/viewers remember the 27-0 cup win as opposed to a 75-0 loss in the league.
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I wouldn’t be so sure; not least because I wasn’t even born when Wigan won 27-0. The number of fans who remember drops day by day.
Enjoy your history books, I’m sure someone somewhere remembers Warrington being champions too ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I do enjoy my history books as it shows Wigan -the most successful RL club in the world,you enjoy yours as you and many Saints fans think RL only started when Super League did,It didnt my friend.
I will be watching England in the World Cup and shouting for them,not calling them,not saying would have played better if more St Helens players had been picked,not blaming any other teams players if we lose.
If Welsby scores the winning try in any game I will be very very happy (yes we know he is a Wigan lad) if Sneyd kicks the winning goal that would be fantastic.
Come on Lads do us proud !
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| Quote ="Jason65"And saints fans can convince themselves that 75-0 after a drubbing by leeds is better than a 27-0 at Wembley,I can guarantee that more fans/viewers remember the 27-0 cup win as opposed to a 75-0 loss in the league.
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I don't think you can guarantee anything its all wishful thinking, its probably Wigoon Old Age Pensioners who remenber the 27-0 scoreline, however the majority of Wigoon fans still remember the 75-0 massacre. Going back into the history books obviously alleviates the pain, or maybe you've found the elixer of life and are 150 years old.
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| My point proven. Wigan fans trying to damage control over getting beat 75-0. Just laugh about it and move on
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| Or call it a draw.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Or call it a draw.'"
Or better still, just close the thread.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I don't think you can guarantee anything its all wishful thinking, its probably Wigoon Old Age Pensioners who remenber the 27-0 scoreline, however the majority of Wigoon fans still remember the 75-0 massacre. Going back into the history books obviously alleviates the pain, or maybe you've found the elixer of life and are 150 years old.'"
You can guarantee that a nobody such as yourself STAINMAN (I had to )will respond with a load of cr*p.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"My point proven. Wigan fans trying to damage control over getting beat 75-0. Just laugh about it and move on'"
Your point is proven by another Saints fan,yep that works!
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| Rather than bickering about the past, people should focus on the future. We've had nearly 30 years of super league, and this sintellins team have won trophies at a far quicker rate than any other team. That's not merely an era, it's an order. If things continue as they are (why wouldn't they, when it's been like that for nearly 30 years?), sintellins will quickly become the most successful of all time, there will be no pre-super league debate, that'll be gone. Wigan fans won't have a leg to stand on. Sintellins will just keep winning, again, and again....and again. Troubling times for wigan fans.
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| Quote ="Jason65"You can guarantee that a nobody such as yourself STAINMAN (I had to )will respond with a load of cr*p.'"
Another example is the 2022 Challenge Cup Final not many neutral fans remember that the Goons won that game. In wider circles it is always known as the "The Best Team Lost Challenge Cup Final" were the referee lost the yellow card in his back pocket.
In the superleague era there has only been 3 dynasty's and the wigoons are not won of them, Bradford, Leeds and Saints have been far superior in every way, as far as the future of the game Leeds and Saints will still feature significantly and we might just see Warrington take over from the Wigoons challenge next season.
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