probably not

true, get off my thread Dally!



Rd. 10
bulls v crusaders 7853
cas v saints 6879
quins v rovers 2819
hull v wire 14131
salford v hudds 4014
wigan v wakey 14615
Catalan v leeds 8,230

Total = 58,541
Avg = 8,363

Monday's gates were over 8% down on the same day last season.

Lowest so far this season.

Whenever you get Quins & Salford at home in the same round the gate avg is severly reduced.

As an aside Hull have now had 50 consecutive league and playoff games in a row with 10,000+ crowds now.

hey! i wasn't mocking it, just stating facts that that stadium often looks pretty empty even with a good crowd inside it, as we have seen at test matches - it was a great crowd, no complaints from me on that score

quins and salfords crowds are embarrasing

how much higher would the sl average be without them.

simple formula, no ground, no license for salford

i dont see quins lasting much longer

I would set a min expectation. For me if you can't get more than 5000 people to a game you have no place in the elite league of RL, simple as that.

I'd make it 10,000. 5,000 is embarrassing

Yeah, fans would turn up in their droves to watch a 4 team competition

The whole sport just needs to do more. The days of having a "Next game is Vs St Helens" poster on the wall near the ground as your advertising for the week are long gone. They are so many distractions at home and at other entertainment venues that league really does have to do more to get people interested. I'm not just referring to one off initiatives either, those are good starts but they need to be followed up.

The level of community involvement from SL sides is terrible. I live in Warrington and their on field success is their only advertising tool. Nothing has ever come through my door about the Wolfs and I've never seen them in town drumming up new supporters either. They've also never bothered to visit the school my son goes to, but Sale Sharks RU and Blackburn Rovers FC have. Locally and nationally it just needs to be ramped up. Richard Lewis needs to start being more proactive when it comes to sports coverage, handing content to newpapers, online sites and news stations. All of those outlets have massive audiences and given their willingness to cut costs, pre delivered and interesting content would be lapped up.

nrl after 4 completed rounds, average 17,911

brest - brisbane 40,427
worst - penrith 11,079

best sydney club -souths 21,404
then wests tigers 19,870
then dogs 18,924

good to see some sydney clubs getting above average crowds

If after 100+ years of existence you've only managed to interest 5 or 6 thposand people then maybe time to give someone else a chance

Quins will do well to break 4,000 this year apart from the "double header".

5,000.....don't make me laugh.





In 59 games at the stoop since Quins RL were born there have been 6 x 5k+ gates at home. 6 games in nearly 5 years. These include the first game v Saints and 3 matches that Wigan discounted travel down to London........and no gate over 5k at the stoop in 2009......so not really moving in the right direction aren't they with a current average of 2,770...

queue loads of anti gutterfax posts...........for pointing out the in9 obvious

Some good crowds this round

HullKR: 8,452
Salford: 6,618
Leeds: 16,896
Wakefield: 4,671
Quins: 5,200
Catalan: 8,884
Hudds: 5,932

Catalans crowd is frankly amazing given how little hope they have on the field.

also isn't it true that they have few season ticket holders? as the French don't really take to the concept? or have they grown their season ticket numbers as the years have gone on?

=#8000FFI thought that last season they had over 7000 "members" which I assumed were season ticket holders?

sheffield at around 2500, and fax at 2800 are very promising crowds

if a lower league club can average 3000, then i think they can put in a very realistic SL bid.

fax could well be a dark horse for SL next time

could well be.
Both Quins and Salford have one thing going for them though...they are already in SL. Widnes should be a shoe in next time around and as the clubs have already agreed no increase, Fax would be better off pitching for 4 years time.

sl average crowd up around 450 from last year so thats very promising especially with 14 teams vs 12, so total attendances would be up a lot

with st helens to get a new ground and widnes to come into SL, a 10,000 average could well be achieved.

If Salford, Wakefield and cas could get there's sorted and hkr get the improvements done it would be a very realistic target.

Alot is going to change in the next 5 years or so. Catalans will have had their redevelopment, hopefully KR will have too. Saints, Castleford and hopefully wakefield and salford will have new grounds too. With these along with Widnes probaly coming into the competition it's exciting times for RL and i think by the 2015 we will have 12,000 average!

the rhinos also should be aiming to grow crowds over 20,000

for a city the size of leeds their crowds are poor, compared to what the hull clubs achieve (combined)

Not a chance at Headingley. The place is a dump. Does it even hold 20k now that they've had to shut down most of the South Stand for not being safe?