The money bradford aren't recieving is going to the other sl clubs,,is that right?.

Is it just a case then, of the other clubs getting there money back asap which is only fair,rather than all this nonsense about bradford being unfairly penalised.

Yes


Feel free to post a list of all this money you suggest other chairmen were propping up the old Bulls with.

Even if they did, feel free to explain why they should then be free to arrange their own preferential treatment, if their money had indeed been lost "propping up" the old club.

If you were a different creditor of the old club - say, a smallish local caterer - would you think it "only fair" that the Bulls forfeited share was distributed amongst all creditors who'd lost money, or just amongst those who happened to be chairmen? I must say the fairness escapes me, but perhaps you can explain it.

We can't have a system that just reduces everything to whatever the worst run/lowest revenue club can afford. All you do is accelerate the money drain from RL. You won't get sponsors if you don't have stars in the game. If you have really dramatic squad limits ( say no more than 15 players on more than 25k ) you don't even need a cap, because even the richest club can't stuff its bench with stars and would be forced to bring youth through to have a viable group of 25 to 30 to get through a season.

Wrong. I'd be amazed if Lenegan, etc. wanted anything else than other clubs to compete hard and bring in fans and media interest. Its good for business. Stuffing failing, poorly supported clubs that the media has practically forgotten even exist, isn't.

That's kind of what I meant by 'If the weak got even weaker, then where's the challenge?'

Teams that can [icompete[/i with you, so games are not foregone conclusions, but not actually [ibeat[/i you too regularly. Or are you going to tell me you want your team to lose more often?
A few more clubs get closer to break even and the calls for a cap rise would soon come. 'To retain more top players in SL', and in no way to help the rich clubs maintain their competitive advantage and put the rest back on the breadline, obviuosly.
If we (HKR) were among the rich clubs, I'd want exactly the same. I hope I wouldn't adopt a sanctimonious 'blame the poor' attitude towards all the game's ills though.


If the big clubs get really fed-up, they should go off and form a Mega-League or some such. There's nothing to stop them.

Because they were able to create a mechanism for doing so, indirectly. Nothing about that process was fair, but that seems at least rational.

If Khan had not have gone newco and had brought you out of administration, striking a deal with the creditors, it'd have just been a points deduction.

Tbf, he got an extant squad, transfer of the licence and a stadium lease for very little cash up front. The option of starting over was there and the forfeiture of half the Sky cash was made clear from the outset, wasn't it?

Weren't Bradford one of those vulture clubs circling around Wakefield at the time? They were also circling around Salford not so very long ago.

I don’t remember Bradford, it was Catalans, Hull & strangely enough Huddersfield, the Andean Condor of vultures

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No.

No, they weren't.

Didn't they circle Wakefield for Ben Jeffries?

I'm surprised their circling of Salford only resulted in picking off Adam Sidlow but they were knowingly skint at the time, so any more pickings might have looked like stealing



Circling Wrexham proved a tad more worthwhile when they came away with Jarrod Sammut and Elliot Kear.

The RFL might change the rules on administration and say 2 years. That way thats 1 club relegated, and all it would want now is another club to go the same way. That gives them then a 12 team super league without too many big drama's.

Ah, you just want to be crassly stupid. You should've said, though I might have guessed. Crack on.

If Bradford have secured a "bridging" loan from a bank, then how come it's taking a week to sort out funds? Also, is borrowing money from the bank on the promise of future ticketing revenues not very similar to some of the actions of early 2012? Catalan and London next up.....10,610 and 10,132 last year, before the August wages are due to be paid......then with Huddersfield...who should be chasing the hubcap.....so could be a 15k bumper crowd. Then 5 months of no home games and a reported 1 million quid to find in wages.....and the interest on the 200k loan. Queue bucket collections galore by the middle of February 2014! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... nk/?ref=mr Quote Bulls co-chairman Gerry Sutcliffe last week told the Telegraph & Argus how the club needed new investment after a year in which only 6,500 season tickets were sold and crowds have averaged well below 10,000'" Also, out of interest, if The RFL own the lease on Odsal, what exactly are Bradford borrowing against this time?

If Bradford have secured a "bridging" loan from a bank, then how come it's taking a week to sort out funds? Also, is borrowing money from the bank on the promise of future ticketing revenues not very similar to some of the actions of early 2012? Catalan and London next up.....10,610 and 10,132 last year, before the August wages are due to be paid......then with Huddersfield...who should be chasing the hubcap.....so could be a 15k bumper crowd. Then 5 months of no home games and a reported 1 million quid to find in wages.....and the interest on the 200k loan. Queue bucket collections galore by the middle of February 2014! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... nk/?ref=mr Quote Bulls co-chairman Gerry Sutcliffe last week told the Telegraph & Argus how the club needed new investment after a year in which only 6,500 season tickets were sold and crowds have averaged well below 10,000'" Also, out of interest, if The RFL own the lease on Odsal, what exactly are Bradford borrowing against this time?

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Trouble up mill methinx

Will they ever learn.

Dear oh dear, the desperate nature of that is depressing....and hilarious at the same time.

Under 12's free! Please bring a buddy please! Theres former bulls champions playing!

Quote ="gutterfax"If Bradford have secured a "bridging" loan from a bank, then how come it's taking a week to sort out funds? Also, is borrowing money from the bank on the promise of future ticketing revenues not very similar to some of the actions of early 2012? Catalan and London next up.....10,610 and 10,132 last year, before the August wages are due to be paid......then with Huddersfield...who should be chasing the hubcap.....so could be a 15k bumper crowd. Then 5 months of no home games and a reported 1 million quid to find in wages.....and the interest on the 200k loan. Queue bucket collections galore by the middle of February 2014! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... nk/?ref=mr Also, out of interest, if The RFL own the lease on Odsal, what exactly are Bradford borrowing against this time?'" So bradford are almost back to square one, losing money and needing new investment....again? The club is dying. They managed to survive all that once, by the skin of the teeth, but if they have to go through that again i doubt they'll survive. An ailing club.

Quote ="gutterfax"If Bradford have secured a "bridging" loan from a bank, then how come it's taking a week to sort out funds? Also, is borrowing money from the bank on the promise of future ticketing revenues not very similar to some of the actions of early 2012? Catalan and London next up.....10,610 and 10,132 last year, before the August wages are due to be paid......then with Huddersfield...who should be chasing the hubcap.....so could be a 15k bumper crowd. Then 5 months of no home games and a reported 1 million quid to find in wages.....and the interest on the 200k loan. Queue bucket collections galore by the middle of February 2014! www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... nk/?ref=mr Also, out of interest, if The RFL own the lease on Odsal, what exactly are Bradford borrowing against this time?'" So bradford are almost back to square one, losing money and needing new investment....again? The club is dying. They managed to survive all that once, by the skin of the teeth, but if they have to go through that again i doubt they'll survive. An ailing club.

I remember SL Backchat a couple of months ago and was surprised by this:-

The restructuring for next year was looking at a reduction to twelve teams. Rod Studd said to the 3 guests (Stevo, Andy Wilson and I think it was Danny Lockwood) who will be the 2 to leave SL in 2013. All 3 replied London and Bradford.

I wasn't surprised by the London comments but Bradford was a strange one at the time. Did they know something wasn't right then ?

Outstanding work from RLfans. Club comes out and says we are not near administration, this is temporary cash flow issue. 7 pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth that this isn’t a temporary cash flow issue and club is near administration

Yes its surprising that those who are definitely "not in the know" think they know more than those who are.

"temporary cash flow issues" are not usually indicative of club in good health. To be fair, your world must be quite a happy one, where you lap up any statement or press release issued by the RFL or clubs like Bradford. Far be it from me to suggest the real world is better than your happy fantasy one (it probably isn't), but hey, if you're ever interested in what's going on, drag out some old statements and press releases (say from a few years ago) from the RFL, or Bradford, or Crusaders, or all 3, whatever, and compare them with subsequent events. You might learn something.

Any update on how the RFL's strategic plan is going?

Ah so you believe everything you get told? You're a politicians dream.

A temporary cash flow problem is not being able to draw a tenner out of a cash machine.
A pro organisation run by capable people not paying their well known employees (some of which have a knack for talking loudly on social media sites) and then seeming telling pork pies to their own newly appointed Deputy Director who then posts these points on social media doesnt scream problems at you?

Just saying...

Oh dear,bring a buddy for a fiver.They do realise that many who would usually pay full price at the gate will be latching on to a ST holder and paying the club LESS.Dont they?