That's really quite funny

Last year the UK government were making a right balls of dealing with covid but, they have been saved by the vaccine rollout.
I would agree that France isn't in great shape right now, just as the UK wasn't last year, which is the point that I was trying to make.

Whatever point you were trying to make it did not come across very clearly, btw my reference to the UK government was in the context of your post regarding the French fulfilling they're fixtures and was in no way intended to derail the thread by talking politics, which seems that you are happy to mix the two.

My comment was more to do with people suggesting that it is right for London not to travel to France (to play Toulouse) and yet, it was ok for Catalan to travel to England last season.
There seems to be some huge double standards from some of the "anti French RL" fans on here.

Having said that, the decision to "force" some clubs to travel, while others are exempt seems crazy.
It may have been borne out of good intentions but, it makes a total mockery of the competition.

If the part time clubs are exempt from travelling because they are not contenders for promotion, that is just crazy.
Even if the decision is based around the pandemic, there needs to be a different solution found.

Part time players,being quarantined on return,would miss work.
I believe the owner of London Broncos seems this to be 4 days of work.
Full time players will not lose holidays or money.
Of course,with the play offs possibly including Toulouse,playing a home game,further missed work days may result for part time players.

Anyone outside of the UK is a guest.

What is the actual "criteria" for 'Full Time ' anyway, how does the RFL decide who's FT and who's PT, if the Broncos employed someone "Part-Time' would that change their status, or if Batley employed one 'full timer' would it change theirs, is it the bulk of staff, the bulk of the squad or just the first team?

The UK was part of the European Union with everything it entails, that includes I think EU legislation and all it entails, you may be right personally as I've told our friend from Doncaster I neither know nor care, I would just like him to furnish proof that they are just guests in our leagues, as he is reluctant to do so perhaps you would like to help him out a touch by showing us a link where this is so.

Who are you? Are you really posting in good faith?

Several "contributors" to this site don't post in good faith as they prefer to wind people up, where they demand "proof" of everything said, yet never produce a shred of "evidence" themselves. If you do not want to take it in good faith that the French clubs are guests, if you do not want to look up the fact Les Catalans didn't vote on this last TV deal as they were guests then don't.

You asking me if I'm posting in good faith, wow, accusations from a poster who for the last 12 month who couldn't produce a sentence with out the name Toronto or Lenagan or Perez in it, man you've got some nerve


I wouldn't know where to look for verification or reference to Catalan being a guest, I just assumed that they had the same status as everybody else in super league, but I imagined that you would want to clarify it and give you a little bit of credibility by posting a link to it, but once again as per usual you've failed come up with nothing but huff and puff, same old eh.

Little Wayne69?

FWIW - I'd suggest it's probably anyone who competes in a league governed by anyone who isn't their national body - which could then essentially include the two current professional Welsh clubs also......

Again it’s anyone outside of the UK is a guest.

I think I already stated it somewhere. If a L1/CH club has budgeted or spending 750k on players wages they are classed as full-time.

Nope, the RFL is the governing body for RL in England, Wales Rugby League (WRL) is the governing body for RL in Wales, (with Scotland RL, and RL Ireland the governing bodies for RL in those areas).

The Championship, League One and Two are all RFL governed competitions - where all teams outside England are essentially partaking as "guests".

So I guess the trick would be to get "Players" wages to £749,999.99p, then employ everyone else as a gardner, butler, etc at your home, or as a "consultant" for your regular non-rugby business's to top up their money, lmao.

There is a serious point to the non travel to Toulouse, in that, it gives Toulouse a huge, huge advantage in the league table.
If they are guaranteed 6/7 24 - 0 home wins, plus any other victories that come their way, they have a massive advantage over the rest of the clubs in The Championship, which makes an absolute mockery of the competition.
It seems bizarre that we could go into the season with this arrangement in place.
There may be good intentions behind the "rule" but, the reality is that Toulouse, one of the favourites to make the Championship GF, are gaining unfair advantage over their promotion rivals, especially if any of the other "contenders" follow the same route as London and choose not to travel.
In order to protect the integrity of the competition, an urgent remedy is required.

May i politely suggest you read the operational rules regarding the requirement of teams travelling to Toulouse.

One you have completed that task it think you will probably delete this rediculous post.

Good lad

Either way, everyone agreed to the rules by virtue of continuing to participate, if your unhappy with them, the time to object was when you were asked to agree with them, not weeks/months later. I believe it is unfair, both on the French Club's main rivals and all Full Time teams, but, it was agreed upon, so lets just crack on.

Well they will gain unfair advantage. Unfortunately for London they went down another unfair route instead of simply playing the game.

Thanks for the advice, really.(btw it's ridiculous, not the advice, just the spelling

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Didn't have you down as a member of the cheap shot grammar police.

sorry HJ, couldn't resist.

I think that will backfire big time if they win promotion to superleague on points difference and the difference between them and their rivals is only a few points.

I can see court cases

By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous.

The reward of the 2 points is more than enough

Quote ="Donnyman"I think that will backfire big time if they win promotion to superleague on points difference and the difference between them and their rivals is only a few points. I can see court cases By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous. The reward of the 2 points is more than enough'" There may be more complaints should London Broncos,wanting a level playing field,not be fined and have a points deduction, as another full - time club faced with a fixture in France https://laptrinhx.com/news/salford-reve ... YQqg4/amp/

Quote ="Donnyman"I think that will backfire big time if they win promotion to superleague on points difference and the difference between them and their rivals is only a few points. I can see court cases By all means give them the 2 league points but to widen their points difference as well is monstrous. The reward of the 2 points is more than enough'" There may be more complaints should London Broncos,wanting a level playing field,not be fined and have a points deduction, as another full - time club faced with a fixture in France https://laptrinhx.com/news/salford-reve ... YQqg4/amp/

So, with the rules around clubs travelling Toulouse decided by s/c spend, there will be a number of clubs who would prefer not to travel and they will either postpone the fixture or, not play at all due to covid, which contrary to my previous post, could actually count against Toulouse.
OK, they benefited from a 24 - 0 score being awarder in their favour for the Broncos "no show" but, how will thy fare over the course of the season.
There aren't too many Championship clubs spending over the s/c threshold, although it's difficult to find any actual figures for this.
Which leaves some "big" spending clubs who will be prepared to travel, some who will not (like London) and then a number of smaller spending clubs who probably wont travel.
Although league position will be decided base on % of games won, this is a right royal mess.

Toulouse will benefit if the "big spenders" dont travel but, overall, by not playing too many games at home, there will be an huge disadvantage, with them having to rely on their away form.

If things get tight towards the business end of the season, the success of Toulouse and indeed the other challengers may well come down to willingness to travel and not results on the field of play.