I hope Brown proves his doubters wrong. Ask any Giants fan (the ones who actually see him week in week out) and they have a lot of good things to say. Just because he's not everyone's first choice doesn't mean he can't do a good job.
Assuming the squad as a whole doesn't go belly up in terms of performance, I reckon he'll do alright.

yes

Of course he does than he can blame Sooperdooperleague for all the problems and bring it all down to the fact that keighley were shafted and if that had not happened England would be world beaters.

How do people think Atkins will go? As a Wire fan I have been very impressed with him in SL this year...think he has come on a lot...but I have a question mark over how he will fair on the international stage. What say ye?

Atkins has all the physical attributes required for the international game but his ball play is not up to the same standard – too many passes find the touchline for me. Having said that, if I had to choose between a centre with skill without the athletic ability or Atkins, I would go for Atkins... international Rugby League is a very physical environment

I think he will go OK and if Brown, Tomkins and Widdop can provide him some attacking ball he will be dangerous

Is he better than sam tomkins?

are we going to wake in the morning to another humiliation ???

Take some viagra and it'll be fine mate

Thanks mate - nice avatar who is it ?? havent seen him play for hull before or did i miss it ???

Part of me really REALLY (and I do mean REALLY) wants the NZ Maori to tear England a new one tomorrow morning.

But I must be getting soft in my old age... because I feel kind of sorry for the England supporters.

I genuinely do.


Like or dislike the poms no one could deny that the ones who love rugby league really do love rugby league. Clearly a lot of them feel passionately about the sport and their national side.


Everytime the England side get their árses served up to them by teams like Australia and NZ I laugh out loud. Especially when Billy Slater went the whole length of the field in the 2008 WC in Melbourne before owning the final defender...and still mouthing 'Your shiit mate' at him after he scored...and then Greg Inglis scored immediately from the failed England short kick off restart.











But then I feel bad about it.

I've only been to a few RL games in England but I can honestly say no one I have ever met at any of the fixtures has been anything other than friendly towards me.


All I will say about the England v NZ Maori game tomorrow is that I hope the best team will win.






But no way will I be getting up at stupid O'Clock to watch it

Cutting.

Got the Maori with +12 on the handicap.

Easy money

So... is anyone up?

I reckon ive had maybe 2 hrs sleep

I'm up but not from choice. My little rugby fan obviously wanted to watch the game hence him refusing to sleep!

Glad I set my alarm for 515 because I thought KO was 6

Any chance we can have score updates as it's not on TV in oz. The NZ v Samoa one is though.


Ta. Or maybe even a link???

Sam Tomkins with a couple of loose passes early on that has cost us possesion but so far theres only 1 team in this.

Still 0-0 though

10 gone

Erghhhkk..

Nnnnnn.

I think I'm up.

I'm not sure on 'Whispering' Stuart Fielden.

Goal line drop out forced by England. As expected the forwards are very dominant but the backs arent really doing much

Morley off after 5 mins. Westwood on.

Aye, full of excitement isnt he.



Video ref time BTW!

Ellis drops the ball over the line after attention by Locke. Decent build up though.

Is he injured ?

I cannot hear him because of his quiet mic. I think he'd sound more enthusiastic if it was working right!