GB Only recently after the 2000 olympics decided that cycling was going to be a target sport, so they threw millions at it & stole all Australias coaches, experts, it was a period where you do well because of olympics & funding, don't go getting excited soap dodger

you want to mention Tennis??? really??? consider Australia, historically is only second to the greatest Tennis nation to walk the face of the earth, GB can't hold a candle to Australias tennis history, you haver one surly sweaty jock who is British when he wins & Scottish when he loses

Again, Cricket, in the modern era Australia have been largely dominant & should tear you a new one this coming series

TDF.....well hes Kenyan/ South African but we get the picture, Bring on the new guard, Richie Porte

Formula one...pffft my cars faster than your car because i'm rich

boxing...thats just because you're a third world country, its admirable that you have young migrants that are eager to break free of poverty, & its nice that they want to entertain the rich

i remember about 10 commonwealth games, which lets face it, is generally a two horse race that Australia win by the length of the straight, this is a more accurate gauge

funny how sports that the Aussies are not good at and are vastly inferior to Gb at are just dismissed, as for your comments about immigrants, well Australia seem quite happy to fill there side with pacific island immigrants but a guess thats ok.

Commonwealth games is like the lowest competition for British sportsmen, track and field alone it clashes with the Europeans which most British athletes peak for instead, usain bolt has not even bothered competing at a commonwealth games because there such a low standard. The last time the Commonwealth games were in Melbourne most British athletes went to the world indoors instead as it was a better more prestigious competition. in athletics cycling rowing swimming and numerous other sports its fourth or 5th behind Olympics, worlds, Continental, (indoors)

It's only because the Aussies are decent swimmers.
You're not too hot on many of the other events ?

Must be trying to keep away from the Great Whites

some nonce made an earlier sweeping statement that the ANZACS were better at League and that was about it......I simply listed the other team sports that GB invented and where they stand on the global stage beside the ANZAC cousins.....which made uncomfortable reading for some who then wrapped themselves in the comfort blanket of track cycling and specifically the Olympics and not the worlds because the worlds don't count.......the reality is that 'STRALIA are the heavy hitters in terms of commonwealth sporting achievements, with England 2nd......New Zealand with a population 16 times smaller than GB are assuredly the overachievers in this "dick measuring contest" whilst the sports that Britain does well in usually involves an ANZAC coach....cricket, league, union, swimming, cycling....etc.etc....

Nice name calling there. Sure fire way to win an argument.

How else would you describe someone who makes an unfounded claim against to other countries sporting achievements? A Patriot perhaps?


I could have said "a misguided poster with slight jingoistic and racist undertones", but nonce was easier to type.....
...as for the 'DEBATE" about sporting excellence, RL is a team sport so I believe there is a relevance in comparing the abilities of each country in TEAM sports....like cricket, basketball, League, Union, Soccer et al....but cling to Mo Farrah and track cycling if you must, whilst the original misguided poster with slight jingoistic and racist undertones" would like to now forget his claim about rowing where they were obviously suffering a severe bout of "Redgraveitis" and living on past glories....and cling to the 12th seeding on soccer if you must..50 years of hurt and all that

According to our good friends at wiki, these are the list of major sports in NZ
1 Rugby union - Ranked above England
2 Basketball - Ranked above England and GB
3 Cricket - Ranked higher in 20/20 and ODI
4 Netball - Ranked Higher
5 Rugby league - Ranked Higher
6 Football - Ranked so far behind it's an embarrassment
7. Field Hockey - England are ranked 7 and NZ 8th

.....so in a list of the top 7 team sports in either country, it's 5-2 to NZ....a nation with 1/16th of the population of GB.

The Same List for the Criminals across the pond reads 5-2 not in favour of the "mother country"

The prosecution rests m'lord.

Surprised you can type these through the laughter

When was the last time an Australian won a tennis grand slam?? Why only consider modern cricket but all of tennis history?

He represents Britain because he wants to and who can blame him



Lewis Hamilton does not pay for his car, he races for the best team because he is the best driver

You obviously do not know what 3rd world means (Britain was pretty heavily involved in NATO) but I know the Aussie school system isnt too good
Also Britain was the first country to industrialise and Aus is literally 95% desert wasteland, and is a richer country than Aus by pretty much any metric
Also the majority of world boxing champions have come from the USA- the richest country in the world
Also you JUST said that Hamilton only wins because of money, but then call Britain poor

But yea apart from that you really made some good points

Samantha Stosur won the 2011 US Open. She was the first Aussie slam winner since Leyton Hewitt won his second at Wimbledon in 2002....who in turn followed Pat Rafter who won the last of his slams in 1998. He followed Pat Cash who followed Christine O'Neill,who in turn followed Kerry Melville....at which stage we get to the same year that Virginia Wade won in the Queens Jubilee Year....
Tell us again about Andy Murray who was the first British man to win in 76 years and British player in 35 years since Wade....yeah...Let's talk some more about tennis...where the Davis Cup sees 47 Finals appearances and 28 wins for Australia whilst Team GB come in with 18 appearances and 10 wins.
Simply put....and I'll put it simply because the UK education system isn't all that....since Fred Perry won the last of his majors in 1936, Britain has won 5 Majors and 1 Davis Cup......compared to 111 ...that's ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN Majors and 22...that's TWENTY TWO Davis Cups for 'stalya!

So...that's the the top 7 team sports AND Tennis

Now we have some serious googling up on tennis stats.

This is truly depressing

Trying to stay on thread

Why are you now talkining about history?
When talking about RL or cycling or whatever you talked about the current rankings, being a bit selective aren't you



Also this is all a bit redundant, in England the only sport that the majority care about is football (which we rank far higher than you lot) all other sports are secondary by far
Just like in NZ with RU (which they rank higher at)
Aus is the only country where RL dominates the press (admittedly only in NSW and QLD) so they rank higher at that

The other sports that have a decent following in Britain we tend to do well in, boxing, cricket, athletics (though most people only watch the olympics)
I recon the majority of people in Britain prefer Federer to Murray and could not even name a single British basketball or netball or hockey player, or whatever other obscure sport you want to drag up that no-one watches or cares about

I really dont think you have anything to crow about when it comes to football

We got to the semi finals of Euro 96. FACT. Australia have never even qualified for the Euros. FACT.
Who's laughing now?

Australia are only good at rugby league and in the grand scheme of the sporting world, isnt even recognised as a sport. All other sports they suck at.

Regards

King James

You chat nowt but pure macca you fella, bobbins WUM n'all

Really?

The Premier League is the most popular and richest sporting league in world sport
We have highest (Premier League) and third (Championship behind Bundesliga) highest attended leagues in European football
We have had the second highest amount of European Cup winners by country in Europe with 12 (behind La Liga); the most Cup Winners Cup wins with 8; third highest UEFA Cup wins with 8 (behind La Liga and Serie A)

England have just won the U17 and U20 World Cups n’all

Not at all....you missed this post regarding current world rankings I presume?


Now, Cycling, Darts et al are all individual sports......but as the orif=ginal aside was aimed at ANZAC RL and RL being a team sport, I believe this is as "on point" as possible....

Cycling is a team sport in many events.

England also regularly win the darts world cup, which is played in a team.

NZ also will not be ranked above England in RL after this tournament

...You forgot straw clutching.....You're excellent at that!

SECOND ranked team at the premier multi sports event on Earth ?

Congratulations......but the Olympics isn't what was being discussed here. Team sports are though and in both the case of Australia and New Zealand, the Anzacs are better in 5 of the top 7.....which in the case of NZ v GB is shocking given the massive difference in Population......