While this is not a ' pop ' at licensing , it was pointed out at the time that clubs would always do what was best for themselves , and the quota system is a clear indication that all clubs will do that exactly that , some clubs are currently below or up to the limit , but most are over it one way or another

Yes HKR are particularily taking the Mick , but most clubs if they find themselves uncompetitive will do anything to move upwards , at the end of the day you cannot change human nature , coaches don't want to lose their jobs , chairmen don't want fans on their backs , and fans want a winning team

You can all pretend you are ' holyer than thou ' but your not

I know he is but so is McGoldrick but he gets away with being "American" and I'm sure I've read somewhere before Youngquest claimed to have some Swedish routes taking him off the quota.

It's all stupid, like someone else said they should just say you should have 12 home trained players in the match day 17

i maybe a little niave about the rfl and clubs,but why should they get away with breaking rules or stamping their feet if they dont get their own way when we cant.im pretty sure you have to toe the line in your place of employment etc, why should they be different.the rfl need to stand up for themselves.cant think of a more feeble sporting governing body
i suppose the joke is on everyone of us who put up with this moving the goalposts etc

i'm on your side mate,all the way,but we all know its chairmen of certain clubs that dictate policy to the rfl and the rest of its member clubs.
i suppose ATEOTD it all boils down to pure greed.

your not wrong mate,greed and an "i'll throw my toys out the pram syndrome" attitude.
for me though the rfl have to be stronger,however unlikely that is

But hkr have 10, go figure?

Signing overseas players who have been here before 2008 would give 5 fed trained players too

Yes but that's a problem that is going to diminish, not grow.

People have way over-reacted to all this I think. There aren't any hidden loopholes been uncovered or sneaky cheating going on, nor are the RFL being weak. IMO, they have come up with a fairly innovative set of rules that are designed to encourage home grown talent development and gradually reduce reliance on overseas players whilst at the same time being careful to avoid contravening any EU employment laws and being unfair to any players already here at the time of rule changes.

The non-Aussie/Kiwi passport method of escaping the Overseas Quota rules is one that's been known about by anyone for years and that's why the RFL created the home-grown and Fed-Trained categories. Yes, the rate of reduction of overseas players has probably been much slower that hoped for (clubs should probably have been down to 5 by now), but progress is being made.

SEB are you aware that hkr have 6 overseas players not counting on the 2008 rule? This isn't the rfl sticking to the same rules, they've made some more up!

Is it any different to clubs basically breaking the salary cap rules by paying ' image rights ' to gain an unfair advantage ?

Maybe so, but new nationalities should not be gained AFTER being signed.

No it's not, the only situation a club should have more to spend is the 50k rule.

If you are referring to Big Australian/Tongan/New Zealander Willie (please circle one option) then I agree with you 100%.

If anyone here thinks what has gone on with regard to signing this player is OK, they need their bumps inspecting


Blatant abuse of the rules....6 point deduction for the season and ejection from SL are the only punishment that will stop this sort of thing happening again






...or they could just be made to merge with their bigger and better neighbours

Just move them to Sheffield.

rules were adhered to and no special dispensation given.

The only dispensation is for players who were contracted before the rule change, something all clubs are eligible to do. Within 3 years HKR will be down to 6, the 5 non fed trained players plus Lovegrove who is overseas but fed trained.

That would be true if galea had his eu passport, but he hasn't.

Please tell me what these rules are that the RFL have made up?

Im getting myself confused here bud so if you will entertain me.

Was the 2008 rule for holders of a eu/kolpack passport only?

That was never actually stated, but the way the rules were worded meant that everyone assumed as much. Nobody knew about the Quota and Fed/Non Fed spots being two separate lists. Since Quota players also count as Non Fed, they can apply for exemption under the 2008 rule like any other Non Fed player can.

So why would it matter for galea to have a eu passport?

Have I just asked the same question on two threads??

what your really saying is your all making yourselves look really stupid in an attempt to take the mick out of hull kr.

Maybe so but I'm interested in how the quota system works, if I've got it wrong I'm keen to be put right.

Which I have now, I think, thanks to kosh.

If Galea is the one they were trying to get a Maltese passport for then it only mattered in so far as Willie mason would not have needed to go for tea with the Tongan Prime Minister with the aim of getting a tongan passport. Because there were probs with galea obviously they deemed that the Tongan Prime Minister was a softer touch

That wouldn't be a joke... it would be April fools day.