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| In the last 7 meetings between the two 5 have been at Wakey and Saints have won 4 of them...two by decent margins...the last two times we’ve played at Saints we’ve won one by 4 points and lost one by 4 points...so that’s an indication we may have a better chance playing away with no pressure and not many people believing we will win...
If our forwards are healthy for that date and our pack can do what Catalans did in the cup last season we’ve a squeak in my opinion...
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"God do I have to put "SOME" before saying Wakefield fans?'"
Yes.
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| The draw has thrown up some excellent fixtures and ensured that there will be a Championship club in the semi finals.
Saints will be strong favourites against Wakefield and Wire also favourites against KR but, the real intriguing fixture is FC v Catalan.
Hull should be favourites at home but, Catalan, on their day are a real force and could cause an upset.
Bradford and Fax will both fancy their chances of progression but, home advantage should see Bradford go through.
Trinity will need to have something close to their strongest pack and play to their full potential to get over the top of Saints but, they (Saints) made very hard work of beating an out of sorts Huddersfield side, which gives Trinity a little bit of hope, maybe.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The draw has thrown up some excellent fixtures and ensured that there will be a Championship club in the semi finals.
Saints will be strong favourites against Wakefield and Wire also favourites against KR but, the real intriguing fixture is FC v Catalan.
Hull should be favourites at home but, Catalan, on their day are a real force and could cause an upset.
Bradford and Fax will both fancy their chances of progression but, home advantage should see Bradford go through.
Trinity will need to have something close to their strongest pack and play to their full potential to get over the top of Saints but, they (Saints) made very hard work of beating an out of sorts Huddersfield side, which gives Trinity a little bit of hope, maybe.'"
As you say, it's all up for grabs. I am not sure a championship side in the Semi's is a positive, but they earned the right and the draw was kind. Am sure both Bradford and Halifax would have preferred a SL side.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"As you say, it's all up for grabs. I am not sure a championship side in the Semi's is a positive, but they earned the right and the draw was kind. Am sure both Bradford and Halifax would have preferred a SL side.'"
With both sides having a genuine chance at making the cup semi and with the proximity of the 2 clubs, there will be probably be a better attendance than if they had played some of the other contenders.
Certainly a better draw than if they had played Catalan and assuming its going to be another double header for the semis, their big payday will come there (assuming they dont make the final).
I really hope that there is a plan for Catalan making the final again.
If they were to beat FC, which is entirely possible, they have a 50/50 chance of drawing Championship opposition in the semi and would then be very strong favourites to return to Wembley.
I hope they (the RFL) have got their thinking caps on so it's not a "surprise" if Catalan make the final.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
Trinity will need to have something close to their strongest pack and play to their full potential to get over the top of Saints but, they (Saints) made very hard work of beating an out of sorts Huddersfield side, which gives Trinity a little bit of hope, maybe.'"
See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans always come up with statements like this whilst forgetting their last few games consist of
26-6 win vs a championship team at home and were second best for much of the game.
A one point win against an out of sorts huddersfield team (yet somehow when saints do it, it means we are there for the taking)
Trounced by hull, a team we put 60 past
A 2 point win against Leeds who just lost to Bradford
and a loss against another team we trounced, Cas
You should be concerned with your own form, not ours.
Easy win for us and a spot in the semi
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans always come up with statements like this whilst forgetting their last few games consist of
26-6 win vs a championship team at home and were second best for much of the game.
A one point win against an out of sorts huddersfield team (yet somehow when saints do it, it means we are there for the taking)
Trounced by hull, a team we put 60 past
A 2 point win against Leeds who just lost to Bradford
and a loss against another team we trounced, Cas
You should be concerned with your own form, not ours.
Easy win for us and a spot in the semi'" You
Your arrogance is astounding,good job you are in the minority of Saints fans.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans always come up with statements like this whilst forgetting their last few games consist of
26-6 win vs a championship team at home and were second best for much of the game.
A one point win against an out of sorts huddersfield team (yet somehow when saints do it, it means we are there for the taking)
Trounced by hull, a team we put 60 past
A 2 point win against Leeds who just lost to Bradford
and a loss against another team we trounced, Cas
You should be concerned with your own form, not ours.
Easy win for us and a spot in the semi'"
Well, judging by that insightful back story it looks like a wasted trip over.
Things can change in the space of a couple of weeks, I'd wait until nearer the time to profess total annihilation.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans '"
If you had left it at that, it would have displayed your obsession and saved space and the time it took reading your ego trip.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans always come up with statements like this whilst forgetting their last few games consist of
26-6 win vs a championship team at home and were second best for much of the game.
A one point win against an out of sorts huddersfield team (yet somehow when saints do it, it means we are there for the taking)
Trounced by hull, a team we put 60 past
A 2 point win against Leeds who just lost to Bradford
and a loss against another team we trounced, Cas
You should be concerned with your own form, not ours.
Easy win for us and a spot in the semi'"
A full strength Saints side squeeze past Huddersfield and a Trinity side with 9/10 players missing beat them by 1.
Remember, Saints beat Trinity earlier this season by a MASSIVE 6 points. Therefore, to suggest that something close to a full strength Trinity side, playing close to their best will definitely test Saints (or any other side in the comp), is not too difficult to imagine, even for myopic fans like you.
So what is your point big boy
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"See this is what makes me laugh. Wakefield fans always come up with statements like this whilst forgetting their last few games consist of
26-6 win vs a championship team at home and were second best for much of the game.
A one point win against an out of sorts huddersfield team (yet somehow when saints do it, it means we are there for the taking)
Trounced by hull, a team we put 60 past
A 2 point win against Leeds who just lost to Bradford
and a loss against another team we trounced, Cas
You should be concerned with your own form, not ours.
Easy win for us and a spot in the semi'"
Apart from the last line which I don't agree with as it won't be easy, the rest of this post is totally spot on.
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Your arrogance is astounding,good job you are in the minority of Saints fans.'"
Not sure if it's just coincidence or what, but since him and that other irritant 108 or whatever he calls himself, (in fact thinking about it, it may be himself again,) have been posting all the decent Saints fans except Judderman have left both this and the Saints board, just a thought.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Easy win for us and a spot in the semi'"
You might just get a prediction right for once here ruuBronn, it'll make a change and probably save you more embarrassment, for now anyway.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Not sure if it's just coincidence or what, but since him and that other irritant 108 or whatever he calls himself, (in fact thinking about it, it may be himself again,) have been posting all the decent Saints fans except Judderman have left both this and the Saints board, just a thought.'"
Saints fans left this board and went to Redvee well before I started posting.
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| Quote ="Him"So what did you mean when you said that comments on a message board would fire up the team?
It’s difficult to read this statement in any other way.
Just seems a bit daft that’s all.'"
Because Wakefield love being the underdogs, its very simple a bit like you. When I say Trinity I mean the whole club, players, coaches fans the lot and the more people tell us we have no chance the more we will galvanize, that's what we do, that's why we are still in SL, if we couldn't win against the odds we wouldn't be here.
People always accuse Wakefield of playing above our weight, well if we do how do you reckon that happens? Its a siege mentality, something Leeds know nothing about but should really start learning. You can't have it both ways.
Messages on this message board won't have an effect as I doubt any Wakefield player or coach cares what I think and certainly won't care what you think. However if your attitude is symptomatic of the game as a whole I guarantee you it will fire them up. Its obvious really, why you felt the need to be a smart about it I don't really know, seems to be a thing with increasingly desperate Leeds fans.
Enjoy your time in the CCup....oh sorry I forgot
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Because Wakefield love being the underdogs, its very simple a bit like you. When I say Trinity I mean the whole club, players, coaches fans the lot and the more people tell us we have no chance the more we will galvanize, that's what we do, that's why we are still in SL, if we couldn't win against the odds we wouldn't be here.
People always accuse Wakefield of playing above our weight, well if we do how do you reckon that happens? Its a siege mentality, something Leeds know nothing about but should really start learning. You can't have it both ways.
Messages on this message board won't have an effect as I doubt any Wakefield player or coach cares what I think and certainly won't care what you think. However if your attitude is symptomatic of the game as a whole I guarantee you it will fire them up. Its obvious really, why you felt the need to be a smart booty about it I don't really know, seems to be a thing with increasingly desperate Leeds fans.
Enjoy your time in the CCup....oh sorry I forgot
HTH.
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You have to remember three things:
1) Leeds fans think they are the biggest club ever
2) Leeds fams think Headingley is even in Leeds
3) Leeds have brilliant marquee players
all of the above are true, if you sing a football song as your club anthem.
Most Leeds fans are decent people, some are not.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Because Wakefield love being the underdogs, its very simple a bit like you. When I say Trinity I mean the whole club, players, coaches fans the lot and the more people tell us we have no chance the more we will galvanize, that's what we do, that's why we are still in SL, if we couldn't win against the odds we wouldn't be here.
People always accuse Wakefield of playing above our weight, well if we do how do you reckon that happens? Its a siege mentality, something Leeds know nothing about but should really start learning. You can't have it both ways.
Messages on this message board won't have an effect as I doubt any Wakefield player or coach cares what I think and certainly won't care what you think. However if your attitude is symptomatic of the game as a whole I guarantee you it will fire them up. Its obvious really, why you felt the need to be a smart booty about it I don't really know, seems to be a thing with increasingly desperate Leeds fans.
Enjoy your time in the CCup....oh sorry I forgot
HTH.
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That’s probably the biggest load of tosh I’ve seen. Somehow, I doubt you’re still in Super League because you’ve been underdogs for a few games and people have said you would go down. Anyway, what examples are there of Wakey relishing being the underdogs in recent years, I’m struggling to think of any.
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| Quote ="AS108"That’s probably the biggest load of tosh I’ve seen. Somehow, I doubt you’re still in Super League because you’ve been underdogs for a few games and people have said you would go down. Anyway, what examples are there of Wakey relishing being the underdogs in recent years, I’m struggling to think of any.'"
Your memory really is poor isn't it.
The million pound games between Cas and more recently Bradford.
Trinity were huge underdogs in both and defied the odds to maintain their SL survival.
Certainly in the first instance, John Kear thrived in the "backs to the wall" environment and used this as a huge motivator for the side, who prospered in the last day decider and more recently, when Trinity were "certainties" for the drop after a train wreck of a season, culminating in all sorts of "horse trading" to try and assemble a squad to compete in the qualifiers and then to have Tim Smith and Kevin Locke lose the plot.
Brian Smith (rightly) refused to pick either of them, which made survival even more "impossible" and yet, Trinity prospered, just.
Kear in particular is superb at galvanising a squad when in adversity and he has a fine record of bringing the best out of a side that has been "written off".
The recent performance of Bradford beating Leeds is a fine example of him "relishing being the underdog".
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The million pound games between Cas and more recently Bradford.
Trinity were huge underdogs in both and defied the odds to maintain their SL survival.'"
Huge underdogs? You were at home against Cas who were only 1 point better off than you over the course of the season and had a points difference that was around 270 worst than you. You’d also beaten them home and away earlier that year including nilling them 18-0 at THEIR ground just a few games prior.
Against Bradford again you were the home team and you were facing a Championship team that you’d beaten 48-18 a few games prior. It’d be a push to describe either of those as slight underdogs, ridiculous to say it was HUGE underdogs.
What Bradford did against Leeds was a proper underdog win, those 2 Wakefield wins were just ones you probably should win. But the fans love the underdog tag so much because it makes a win feel more special that you big yourselves up as underdogs more than any rival or neutral fan actually does.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Because Wakefield love being the underdogs, its very simple a bit like you. When I say Trinity I mean the whole club, players, coaches fans the lot and the more people tell us we have no chance the more we will galvanize, that's what we do, that's why we are still in SL, if we couldn't win against the odds we wouldn't be here.
People always accuse Wakefield of playing above our weight, well if we do how do you reckon that happens? Its a siege mentality, something Leeds know nothing about but should really start learning. You can't have it both ways.'"
If you love being the underdog then stop complaining when people write you off otherwise you wouldn’t be “underdogs” if they didn’t do it.
As for Leeds, think you’ll find we were only the bookies favourite in 1 of our 8 GF wins and started some of those years as far down as 4th-6th favourites for the title so we haven’t done too bad winning against the odds ourselves over the years.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Your memory really is poor isn't it.
The million pound games between Cas and more recently Bradford.
Trinity were huge underdogs in both and defied the odds to maintain their SL survival.
Certainly in the first instance, John Kear thrived in the "backs to the wall" environment and used this as a huge motivator for the side, who prospered in the last day decider and more recently, when Trinity were "certainties" for the drop after a train wreck of a season, culminating in all sorts of "horse trading" to try and assemble a squad to compete in the qualifiers and then to have Tim Smith and Kevin Locke lose the plot.
Brian Smith (rightly) refused to pick either of them, which made survival even more "impossible" and yet, Trinity prospered, just.
Kear in particular is superb at galvanising a squad when in adversity and he has a fine record of bringing the best out of a side that has been "written off".
The recent performance of Bradford beating Leeds is a fine example of him "relishing being the underdog".'"
Are you really trying to tell me Wakefield were underdogs in a game against a championship side, at home with 6 players who still play for Wakefield now? That’s laughable. Huge underdogs against Cas is, at best, pushing it somewhat, at worst also laughable. And what Kear and Bradford beating Leeds has to do with Wakefield, I don’t know.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Huge underdogs? You were at home against Cas who were only 1 point better off than you over the course of the season and had a points difference that was around 270 worst than you. You’d also beaten them home and away earlier that year including nilling them 18-0 at THEIR ground just a few games prior.
Against Bradford again you were the home team and you were facing a Championship team that you’d beaten 48-18 a few games prior. It’d be a push to describe either of those as slight underdogs, ridiculous to say it was HUGE underdogs.
What Bradford did against Leeds was a proper underdog win, those 2 Wakefield wins were just ones you probably should win. But the fans love the underdog tag so much because it makes a win feel more special that you big yourselves up as underdogs more than any rival or neutral fan actually does.'"
Wakefield fans will ALWAYS claim they are underdogs no matter who they play but by the end of the paragraph they will also be claiming they will win the game easily.
It really is quite bizarre
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Wakefield fans will ALWAYS claim they are underdogs no matter who they play but by the end of the paragraph they will also be claiming they will win the game easily.
It really is quite bizarre'"
Poor even by your standards I'll tell you whats more bizarre though ruuBronn, a kick and clap supporter who pretends to be a saints fan and gets off trying to wind up Wakey fans, get rid of the laptop and get out a bit more, get down on the dock road and spend a tenner, it might make a man of yer
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As a betting man I know we were 1/12 to get relegated when John Kear took over that season even though the actual million pound game will have been a 50/50 call...
As a Wakey fan of over 30 years though I can certainly identify with us playing better as an underdog, it just suits us...we might all be wrong but it seems as a Wakey fan whenever we are expected to win we make real hard work of it...
Just looking at the table with us sitting 3rd and knowing we lost at London and at home to Hull KR...our two worst performances of the season by far must go some way to backing that up?
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