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| Shameless plugs: just a reminder that anyone in support of the bid can Like the [url=http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bristol-Bid-RLWC-2013/211448588873451Bristol Bid RLWC 2013[/url Facebook Page. It's also worth Following us on Twitter (see my sig) to keep up with updates on the Bid and South West news in general if you want to keep up with regional development. Updates coming after the Bristol City game tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Captain Library"I can play along; Bristol Sonics "A" are represented in a West of England Division which is more "local" than the Midlands West division that the first team play in, with Wiltshire Wyverns (Corsham), Gloucestershire Warriors (Gloucester...) Swindon St George, and a bit further out but with a good profile, Oxford Cavaliers. Obviously they're not Super League sides but that's not the point, is it?
Gloucestershire, Somerset, Devon, Wiltshire... were all represented well in the County Championship Festival season launch on Bank Holiday Monday. Leeds Rhinos are growing a partnership with the region that will allow promising players to train with the Rhinos, support community RL events (Swindon cross-code RU vs RL earthquake relief event for example) and strengthen the profile of RL at universities, colleges etc. I wouldn't be so adamant that the region isn't ready for RL - the sport's been taking steps in the right direction for some time now.'"
I'll be honest. If what you say is correct - and I can't be bothered to check it myself- it seems RL is better represented across your area than I thought.
I'm still not sure about Bristol getting a fixture.
They haven't had one for 100 years for a good reason.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"I'll be honest. If what you say is correct - and I can't be bothered to check it myself- it seems RL is better represented across your area than I thought.
I'm still not sure about Bristol getting a fixture.
They haven't had one for 100 years for a good reason.'"
Yeah - because we haven't tried until now
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| Fair play to Bristol. I say go for it.
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Fair play to Bristol. I say go for it.'"
Hundreds of years of interbreeding have taken it's toll on the population of 'Brizzol'. The locals main past time is fighting with the banjo playing residents of nearby Bath.
Some people say that if you look a Brizzolian directly in the eye you turn into one yourself.
Take my advice and give it the widest possible berth you can if you are ever travelling down the M5.
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| If Bristol are that keen then they deserve a game. If they market it properly, which I am sure that they will, then it has to be worth a gamble.
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| Well done Bristol, hope to see the Sonics in the Championship very soon, having a RLWC game there would be great for the sport, if we get around 10,000 their for a group game or smaller profile quater final then it would be excellent. Hopefully with all the backing the bid is getting this will happen.
Anyone who thinks this isn't a good move is deluded.
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| Quote ="Sheffieldliam"Well done Bristol, hope to see the Sonics in the Championship very soon, having a RLWC game there would be great for the sport, if we get around 10,000 their for a group game or smaller profile quater final then it would be excellent. Hopefully with all the backing the bid is getting this will happen.
Anyone who thinks this isn't a good move is deluded.'"
TEN THOUSAND???
For a Rugby League game?
In Bristol??
Oh my god.
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| Good luck to them. We really need to showcase this tournament to the whole country, not just the M62 corridor, and the RFL need to do everything in their power to make it work. Otherwise, sadly rah rah will leave us for dead in 2015.
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Hundreds of kids in Cheltenham playing RL yesterday.... Gary Hetherington was there with Rhinos staff.... as was the RFL Performance Department... Lesley Vainakolo gave out the trophies.... main back page Photo story in today's Gloucestershire Echo, with a follow-up article tomorrow....
www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/ ... ticle.html
www.southwestrugbyleague.com/art ... ccess.html
press call for the World Cup Launch at Bristol City vs Hull City tomorrow lunchtime....
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Hundreds of kids in Cheltenham playing RL yesterday.... Gary Hetherington was there with Rhinos staff.... as was the RFL Performance Department... Lesley Vainakolo gave out the trophies.... main back page Photo story in today's Gloucestershire Echo, with a follow-up article tomorrow....
www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/ ... ticle.html
www.southwestrugbyleague.com/art ... ccess.html
press call for the World Cup Launch at Bristol City vs Hull City tomorrow lunchtime....
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| [url=http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10328~2353237,00.htmlBristol Rovers too[/url.
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| FWIW
There is more promotion and marketing thought shown in the OP than SL does in the entire season!!!
The "children" however don't understand the concept
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| I like it. The 2000 World Cup didn't work because games just seemed to be placed at random, here, you get the feeling that should a match be placed in Bristol, a lot of marketing will be done by the parties down there to make the match(es) a success.
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| Got a bit of time before heading out for the Sonics game today (A team at home to Swindon St George, K.O 2.30pm if anyone fancies an amateur game etc), so thought I'd put my two penneth in.
I've been down in this neck of the woods for nearly a decade now, and have been involved with the Sonics since we launched in 2002.In that time I've seen the club struggle, build and now flourish. From scraping one open age team together (with muppets like me making up the numbers) we now have 2 open age sides, six junior clubs in the city (aunched a few weeks ago) and more and more schools are taking up our offer of coaching and competitions. Furthermore, as has already been pointed out, FiltoN College has recently added a Director of Rugby League to its Bristol Academy of Sport programme - the idea being that within a year or two we'll have an U18 team, hopefully in the Gillette Youth League.
It's still relatively early days for the sport of Rugby League in the city, but we're in a much healthier state now than we've ever been. Certainly, there seems to be more knowledge of the sport in the area than there has been, and we enjoy very good links with a number of local union clubs - five, for example, are hosting junior sides for us, with another couple equally as enthusiastic. In terms of adult players, we have a dedicated core now who would name League as their first choice code, plus many others from a union background who are just as keen on League. After being here for nine years, most union players know who we are - and many have either tried the sport, or have declared an interest.
Like Sheffield City Council, Bristol City Council see events as a way of bringing people to the city. And like Sheffield, they were involved in the football WC bid. Both councils/cities are in a strong psoition to bid (and have) for 2013 World Cup matches. Both places have the infrastructure - sporting facilities, good transport links, loads of hotels, vibrant city centres - to put in strong bids.
There are many reasons why using big cities as hosts for RLWC matches makes sense. Cities give you a bigger population to aim your marketing at. Big cities often have a strong sporting history and culture. And big cities are often populated by people with a variety of backgrounds, including those who have moved from "traditional" RL areas (be it the North of England or Australia/New Zealand etc) at some point in their lives.
Last time round, the RLWC played a match in Gloucester, on a rainy night. There were still 3, 500 there - not a huge figure, but given the game (Lebanon v New Zealand if I'm correct) and the conditions, not awful. If it had been played in Rochdale, Oldham, Sheffield, Gateshead, Doncaster etc, there would have been few more. Ditto the 4000 (including me) who turned up in Reading to see NZ vs the Cook Islands. A poor crowd, for sure, but similar to what we'd have got up North. The problem with those two areas was that they were pretty "random" - little or no community RL there at that point, or schools work.
Bristol has both of those, plus clubs like Swindon, Somerset Vikings, Gloucester etc within easy reach. It's easy to get to from London and the North either by car or rail/coach. And Bristol is a fine city.
The bid may or may not be successful. If it isn't, we've not lost anything. If it is, it will certainly give a boost to League in this part of the world - and that can only be a good thing IMHO.
We're realistic enough to realize that it comes a bit out of the left field, and it may not fit in with the RFL's plans. But if it does, we'll do everything we can collectively to market the game successfully and use it as a springboard for further grassroots development - particularly in schools. Sheffield, who I would also like to see get games for obvious reasons, would do the same.
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| Quote ="Katie.Smithson"Remember the 2000 world cup and what happened when we took games on the road to places that dont care about rugby league? We got crowds of 2000! 2000 for a world cup game, it was embarassing.
There is no point having games in Bristol, Gloucester, Cornwall, Wrexham, London or any other place where no one cares about the game. They need to be in the heartlands.'"
NZ vs Australia at the stoop did 12,360 at Twickenham Stoop in 2009 4 nations. So having a game in London is a good thing.
Well done to Bristol for trying to support Rugby League and show our game off to the South West people. Hope it is a success!
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| Great stuff. I think I good crowd could be attracted in Bristol for the right match(es).
They also are used to RL supporters staying there instead of Cardiff for the Challenge Cup Final and maybe hope for a bigger slice of the hotel / restaurant / pub spending actiion. RU is big in the hinterland (and RL awareness too). A much better option than Cardiff IMO - close to Cardiff for any Welsh fans of the game, much more accessible for the English travellers and a prospective local audience.
With good local marketing - including advanced ticket sales - we could easily sell out stadia in Bristol and London. Need to build up these events at least a year in advance so it sems the hot, must have ticket.
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| What ground are they looking to play at? Ashton Gate (21.5k) or Memorial Ground (12k)? Memorial Ground doesn't look amazing to be fair (parts uncovered in winter might not attract many new comers), but Ashton Gate might be a bit too big for the sort of game that you'd expect them to get (I think one of the Group B games would be a good achievement).
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| IIRC, there are 21 group games. Perhaps a good strategy would be to spread them out so that 7 are in the NW, 7 in Yorkshire, and 7 in the rest of the country?
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NW - Widnes, Warrington, St Helens, Wigan, Leigh, Salford, Rochdale.
Yorkshire - Halifax, Huddersfield, Leeds, Cas, Sheffield, Doncaster, Hull
Elsewhere - Wrexham, Swansea, Cardiff, Bristol, Wembley, Stoop, Loftus Road
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| Quote ="kobashi"NZ vs Australia at the stoop did 12,360 at Twickenham Stoop in 2009 4 nations. So having a game in London is a good thing.
Well done to Bristol for trying to support Rugby League and show our game off to the South West people. Hope it is a success!
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Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in London?
So 12,360 isn't really that wonderful.
If New Zealand played Australia in Bristol how many of those 12,360 do you think would go?
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in London?
So 12,360 isn't really that wonderful.
If New Zealand played Australia in Bristol how many of those 12,360 do you think would go?'"
Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in Australia?
Yet they couldn't fill a 27K ground for Australia v New Zealand.
So 12,360, by comparison, on the opposite side of the fscking world, is pretty wonderful.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in Australia?
[uYet they couldn't fill a 27K ground for Australia v New Zealand.[/u
So 12,360, by comparison, on the opposite side of the fscking world, is pretty wonderful.'"
I agree.
Imagine if the game had been held in Sydney where there is even less interest than Queensland.
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| Thankfully the Kiwi fans turned up for it. Should have sold out weeks ago in such a small ground. I guess you reap what you sew.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"What ground are they looking to play at? Ashton Gate (21.5k) or Memorial Ground (12k)? Memorial Ground doesn't look amazing to be fair (parts uncovered in winter might not attract many new comers), but Ashton Gate might be a bit too big for the sort of game that you'd expect them to get (I think one of the Group B games would be a good achievement).'"
Bristol City have used their proposed new stadium at Ashton Vale (which may or may not be built by then - there is some local opposition), which has a higher capacity. Ashton Gate and the Memorial Ground are back-ups. Ashton Gate would be OK for a match though - decent atmos, quite a few boozers down North St in Bedminster/Southville serving good ale and cider etc.
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