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google sonny bill williams shoulder charge video and tell me thats not part of RL.
sam burgess has pulled off some beauties as well
and little chris sandow puts on one a week, even on players double his size
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Quote ="jacko32"to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8'"
Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball. 
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Quote ="jacko32"to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8'"
Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"google sonny bill williams shoulder charge video and tell me thats not part of RL.
sam burgess has pulled off some beauties as well
and little chris sandow puts on one a week, even on players double his size'"
i said sonny earlier thats the best in the game shame he cant use it in union |
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.'"
The #14 had passed the ball, he didn't even see Hoppa coming. I don't even know what to class it as, it was shocking. |
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Simply put, NO, everyone loves a big shoulder to shoulder hit, sparks the team and crowd up and can change a game, lets not turn our game into Union and stop anyone putting a bit hit in. It may be dangerous, but the majority of our sport is, its part and parcel of the game!
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball.
That was bad by Cassidy. It actually brought back a lot of emotion just watching that again.'"
massive impact dont know what he was thinking |
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| Quote ="jacko32"i said sonny earlier thats the best in the game shame he cant use it in union'"
thats RU for you
these are the same idiots that spend $1 million dollars a year on a good RL winger or centre, then only give him the ball once or twice a game. |
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Morley on Hansen is a good example. Shoulder dipped into the head. Point of impact is his head.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Morley on Hansen is a good example. Shoulder dipped into the head. Point of impact is his head.'"
Everyone praises it as a fantastic hit. I think differently, deliberatley targeting the head should be treated the same as a stiff arm or elbow. |
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.'"
What a numpty you are. No person deserves to be elbowed in the face, especially at that force. I reckon you should go crawl back into the hole you came from. |
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| Quote ="charlie"The #14 had passed the ball, he didn't even see Hoppa coming. I don't even know what to class it as, it was shocking.'"
GBH?
That's the best description I can think of for Cassidy's on Morley - I watched the clip linked in this thread just the other day (hadn't seen it in years) - even after all this time it remains the worst (cheap) shot I've seen in super league game.
Not only does he use his elbow but he also jumps to reach Mozza's head height and is third man in!
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| Quote ="Omar Little"GBH?
That's the best description I can think of for Cassidy's on Morley - I watched the clip linked in this thread just the other day (hadn't seen it in years) - even after all this time it remains the worst (cheap) shot I've seen in super league game.
Not only does he use his elbow but he also jumps to reach Mozza's head height and is third man in!
That incident aside, I've never really considered Cassidy a dirty player so still can't really understand what was going on in his head.'"
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Morley flattened the Wigan hooker (McCormack?) very early with a very hard tackle which may have been a bit high. It certainly upset the Wigan team. However, there was absolutely no excuse for what Cassidy did - he clearly went in with the sole intention of causing damage to Morley. Not hurt but damage. The only other tackle I've seen in my time which was similar was Paul Moriarty on Hugh Waddell, which smashed Waddell's jaw.
I'm glad we don't see play like that often from anyone.
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Quote ="Red Red Robin"Some of the comments say that it was payback for a Morley hit earlier in the game.'"
Yep. This one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCyzM0V ... re=related
If Cassidy's was bad, at least he had the balls to give it face to face and while he was running the ball. Morley takes McCormack high, from behind, off the ball.
Yes, a dirty shot from Cassidy, but what goes around... |
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Quote ="Red Red Robin"Some of the comments say that it was payback for a Morley hit earlier in the game.'"
Yep. This one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCyzM0V ... re=related
If Cassidy's was bad, at least he had the balls to give it face to face and while he was running the ball. Morley takes McCormack high, from behind, off the ball.
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Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Morley flattened the Wigan hooker (McCormack?) very early with a very hard tackle which may have been a bit high. It certainly upset the Wigan team. However, there was absolutely no excuse for what Cassidy did - he clearly went in with the sole intention of causing damage to Morley. Not hurt but damage. The only other tackle I've seen in my time which was similar was Paul Moriarty on Hugh Waddell, which smashed Waddell's jaw.
I'm glad we don't see play like that often from anyone.'"
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I'm glad we don't see play like that often from anyone.'"
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The laws of the game need a proper definition of what is a legal tackle. Once we've got that everything else should fall into place. At the moment there's definitions of when a tackle is deemed complete but not what it is! For instance if a tackle is complete when ball carrying arm hits the ground, forward progress halted etc with opponent in contact does this "outlaw" a shoulder charge since by these definitions it can't result in such a complete tackle.
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Even though he was a complete idiot and an utter disgrace when he left Canterbury Bulldogs I would love to see him back as he a very good Rugby League football player.
As for the ban, I think some people are going OTT. There is nothing wrong with the shoulder charge. The hits are fantastic!
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Even though he was a complete idiot and an utter disgrace when he left Canterbury Bulldogs I would love to see him back as he a very good Rugby League football player.
As for the ban, I think some people are going OTT. There is nothing wrong with the shoulder charge. The hits are fantastic!
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Do not ban the shoulder charge ffs the game's going soft!
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Andy Dannatt on Ellery Hanley was a bad one. I think Hanley took legal action over it.
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Andy Dannatt on Ellery Hanley was a bad one. I think Hanley took legal action over it.
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Stevo is such a contradicting idiot he managed to contradict himself this week a good couple of times, Thursday he was spouting off on SSN that the shoulder charged should be banned, tonight he was wetting himself praising every single shoulder charge in the game, just retire Stevo.
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Ban the shoulder charge? no its part of our game being a more exciting sport than union. Occasionally it may go wrong and a player may get hurt but the same is true of any tackle.
i'm more worried about chicking wing tackles that still go on and have resulted in a number of shoulder injuries.
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Lets ban the normal tackle because people get injured and arm,legs,finger,noses, jaws get broken plus the concussion.
Let's make it a TAG game and anyone caught fighting should be banned for life, while we are at it there must be a 50% qouta of women playing.
Only bright girly colours are allowed in kit design and open a Top Shop in every stand.
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Quote ="Cronus"Yep. This one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCyzM0V ... re=related
If Cassidy's was bad, at least he had the balls to give it face to face and while he was running the ball. Morley takes McCormack high, from behind, off the ball.
Yes, a dirty shot from Cassidy, but what goes around...'"
Where did you get those cherry and white tinted spectacles from?
Morley's is a badly timed reckless attempt at a big hit (fairly typical of the hot headed youthful Mozza to be frank). It wasn't "off the ball" it was late...there's a huge difference (Moz didn't expect McCormick to drop the ball). It also was only "from behind" (not against the rules BTW) because McCormick turns his back..do you expect Morley to run around McCormick and tackle him "from the front"  
Cassidy's "tackle" on the other hand is an out and out assault - he has such "balls" that he targets the Mozza's head as thrid man in- yes it fills your special criteria of "from the front but Mozza can do nothing at all to get out of the way or avoid the elbow contacting his head.
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Quote ="Cronus"Yep. This one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCyzM0V ... re=related
If Cassidy's was bad, at least he had the balls to give it face to face and while he was running the ball. Morley takes McCormack high, from behind, off the ball.
Yes, a dirty shot from Cassidy, but what goes around...'"
Where did you get those cherry and white tinted spectacles from?
Morley's is a badly timed reckless attempt at a big hit (fairly typical of the hot headed youthful Mozza to be frank). It wasn't "off the ball" it was late...there's a huge difference (Moz didn't expect McCormick to drop the ball). It also was only "from behind" (not against the rules BTW) because McCormick turns his back..do you expect Morley to run around McCormick and tackle him "from the front"
Cassidy's "tackle" on the other hand is an out and out assault - he has such "balls" that he targets the Mozza's head as thrid man in- yes it fills your special criteria of "from the front but Mozza can do nothing at all to get out of the way or avoid the elbow contacting his head.
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Quote ="Cronus"Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Morley flattened the Wigan hooker (McCormack?) very early with a very hard tackle which may have been a bit high. It certainly upset the Wigan team. However, there was absolutely no excuse for what Cassidy did - he clearly went in with the sole intention of causing damage to Morley. Not hurt but damage. The only other tackle I've seen in my time which was similar was Paul Moriarty on Hugh Waddell, which smashed Waddell's jaw.
I'm glad we don't see play like that often from anyone.'"
McDermott on Sironen.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN6wcCiG_Q'"
So from your response to Brisbane Rhinos post are we to assume that you consider McDermott on Sironen to fall into that (thankfully) rare category of aiming to damage not hurt (I'd agree FWIW) but you see fit to defend Cassidy as having "Balls" for assaulting Morley???!? |
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Quote ="Cronus"Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Morley flattened the Wigan hooker (McCormack?) very early with a very hard tackle which may have been a bit high. It certainly upset the Wigan team. However, there was absolutely no excuse for what Cassidy did - he clearly went in with the sole intention of causing damage to Morley. Not hurt but damage. The only other tackle I've seen in my time which was similar was Paul Moriarty on Hugh Waddell, which smashed Waddell's jaw.
I'm glad we don't see play like that often from anyone.'"
McDermott on Sironen.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN6wcCiG_Q'"
So from your response to Brisbane Rhinos post are we to assume that you consider McDermott on Sironen to fall into that (thankfully) rare category of aiming to damage not hurt (I'd agree FWIW) but you see fit to defend Cassidy as having "Balls" for assaulting Morley???!? | |
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