No I haven't watched all of FC's games, all I was commenting on was todays effort and the small selection of other games I have seen this season. Any reason for the inquest and defensiveness?

easiest negotiation ever. nah i was abit harsh about the hull derby it was a decent game just wanted sky to show the bradford v leeds more.

Simply because you try and make yourself to be some kibd of expert with sweeping statements about how we have looked better this year. This implies you have seen us regularly which i find hard to believe. i would guess you saw the Broncos game when we were domiant but poor and highlights on Sky / BBC which can be edited to highlight good or bad points.
what we saw today was a derby not just another league game. There is more than just 2points. at steak and form goes out of the window. Hull ground Rovers down and then broke out to win easy. You will not find many tries better than Yeamans this season. You also saw a Hull side flying under the radar who are improving each week and are coached to a high stabdard. epitomised by the man of the match today and former Quin Sharp who are unrecogniseable from last season.

I dont expect much from this season but as we saw in 06 if we get basics right the rest will follow. inc free flowing attack. We are far from finished but far from a poor attacking side. .

OK Hull FC were magnificent, whatever.

Grow up child. Typical petulant southerner being found out, throws toys out of his pram.
i never stated we were excellent i simpky highlighted how your sweeping statement was fsctually incorrect. yet you make yourself out to be sone kind of expert. Sorry to offend.

I love it, you have an opinion that neither Hull FC or Hull KR are doing that well with ball in hand, as was evidenced during a woeful first half, you then comment that Hull FC have actually been decent on other occasions this year, and you still get some irate muppet "finding you out" with a long detailed post full of waffle

Neither team would have scored in a brothel in that first half. Usually in tight games like that it's a case of waiting to see whose defence cracks first - today, though, I was simply waiting to see which team could make the passes stick. As it turns out, it was FC in the second half who got it together.

You echo my thoughts exactly mate.I had the same problem today,,Think is was the Saints/Wire game last week when this glich came up and in the end i ended up watching the remaining 30-35 minutes on Standard Definition which by the way,the sound was fine....

Out of interest, how big is the difference between standard and high definition for watching sports matches? I only have standard sky (sky+, not skyHD) but I've never had any issues with the quality of the sports matches on it.

Why does anyone still care what Lister says about anything? He's a proven WUM.

Personally i think its great,,the only prob is its a extra tenner a month but if you watch something on 401 hd and then swich to 408 sd,,,the difference in quality is striking...

despite the face that both teams did (score tries that is, not in a brothel admittedly)

But you have not seen hull play this year so how can yoy state that? Simple question. I have watched every minute of our games and was simply pointing out your failings. As for others. Oyr completion rate was far better than many teams today. Basic football which wears teams down. Leeds have excelled at it for a decade or more. Rather that than error strewn play like Wire for example

Aye, but it was a very long time in coming, maybe my expectations were simply too high? My issue wasn't so much the lack of scoring, but the fact it came about from some really pretty terrible last tackle options or pushing passes when it wasn't needed (I was kind of hoping to see something a bit better than that since I've watched it at Warrington so far season

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I must admit, i thought it was one of the 'tamest' Hull derbies I have ever seen.

Then again Sts V Wigan wasn't the 'blood and thunder' you would come to expect either.

No problem, happy to help.

I noticed that. There wasn't much aggression on show this year. I blame it on Clint Newton's departure, he was a great pantomime villain who usually got things fired up.

Possibly because we both have coaches now that realise that the game isn't the be all and end all, that there's more to the season than the 2 (or 3) derbies.

I enjoyed it, the Hull forwards looked like they could have waited for a week for The KR forwards to roll over into submission.

I actually liked the guy,even though he was always trying to wind us Hull fans up.

You must have a very short memory. Seem to remember many Saints and Wigan derbys (Cardiff ring a bell?) that were over almost before they began. Now they were like watching paint dry.

Surprising given there were 14 players from Hull on the field, you'd have thought there would have been a bit more passion in the game. I blame Aussie coaches!

Why can't a controlled, focused side be passionate. Uk RL fans need to stop mistaking emotion for passion.

I agree, there was plenty of passion on show. Just need to look at the try celebrations to see what it meant to the players.
What it didn't have is the usual aggression and niggling. Probably a good thing in my book, I'd rather see a focussed, committed display then a scrappy, niggly, aggressive affair.