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| Quote ="Eurob0y"LOl what does imfamous mean?'"
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| Quote ="Wadski"No need to when the defendant admits guilt.'"
In the breaking and entering charge i meant
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| Quote ="Wadski"That could be argued.'"
Ok, SOME taxes
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"So you were in court, and listened to it, then, did you?
Maybe you'd better dash a letter of to the Sporting Life, BBC etc. who are all reporting that:-
Unless of course on your planet, charging the door and breaking the frame and the lock doesn't count as forcing your way in?
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Hey, mr clueless wannabe lawyer.
You do realise that breaking a door does not constitute gaining entry by voilence dont you. So my sentence was correct. As was proved in the court today. The bit from the reports you quoted, is just criminal damage.
Therefore you fail.
Epic Fail.
Your shipment of fail has arrived.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"In the breaking and entering charge i meant
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My apologises. Although it is likely this charge was dropped in a plea bargain.
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| Quote ="Wadski"My apologises. Although it is likely this charge was dropped in a plea bargain.'"
It was dropped because there was no evidence.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"LOl what does imfamous mean?
As for Pryce, correct decision imo. He was protecting himself from a man armed with a rounders bat'"
No. If that's what he was doing he would have been acquitted. What he was doing, and what he was convicted of, was assaulting someone.
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| Quote ="tb"No. If that's what he was doing he would have been acquitted. What he was doing, and what he was convicted of, was assaulting someone.'"
If thats the case its a traversty of justice!!!!!
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| Quote ="Wadski"My apologises. Although it is likely this charge was dropped in a plea bargain.'"
Thats more likely, to get them to plead guilty on the other charge. The no evidence idea is rubbish, there were two witnesses and the broken door!
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Having not been in court for the proceedings, I'd have more faith in the 'British Justice System' than the kangaroo court of RLFans posters.'"
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| Quote ="Eurob0y":2e4q5fywYou do realise that breaking a door does not constitute gaining entry by voilence dont you. So my sentence was correct.'" :2e4q5fyw
[url=http://viewtopic.php?p=14001757#14001757:2e4q5fywThis[/url:2e4q5fyw sentence:
Quote ="Eurob0y":2e4q5fywThere was no evidence from the prosecution to say that either Pryce or Reardon forced their way in. '" . In fact, it says that they didn't force their way in. Now, I'm not sure what you'd consider 'force' to be, but I'd say that smashing the door down with a shoulder charge would constitute 'force'. But maybe that's just me.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Thats more likely, to get them to plead guilty on the other charge. The no evidence idea is rubbish, there were two witnesses and the broken door!'"
...and Reardon has been made to pay costs for the broken door.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"It was dropped because there was no evidence.
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I doubt that somewhat - if you shoulder charge a door in there would be plenty of evident. The door, the hinges, the frame of the door, witness statements possibly DNA evidence from the clothing of the perpetrator.
Admitting a more serious charge would probably make the lesser charge go away.
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| Quote ="Wadski"I doubt that somewhat - if you shoulder charge a door in there would be plenty of evident. The door, the hinges, the frame of the door, witness statements possibly DNA evidence from the clothing of the perpetrator. '"
Plus, if there wasn't any evidence, why would Reardon have been [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8013746.stmordered to pay £240 for the cost of the broken door[/url?
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"...and Reardon has been made to pay costs for the broken door.'"
that wasnt broken anyway
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"It was dropped because there was no evidence.
HTH'"
If the prosecution dont present any evidence, it doesnt maen there wasn't any
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"As I said on the Saints thread, Greg Eastwood can't play for Leeds because he has a speeding ticket!'"
And Leon Pryce would struggle to get a permanent working Visa in Australia so I have to ask . . . . what's your point?
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Hey, mr clueless wannabe lawyer.'"
Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness, son.
Quote ="Eurob0y"You do realise that breaking a door does not constitute gaining entry by voilence dont you.
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Whether I do or I don't is irrelevant, as this is not a proposition on which i have offered a view.
Quote ="Eurob0y"So my sentence was correct. '"
Quote It was?
Eurob0y wrote: There was no evidence from the prosecution to say that either Pryce or Reardon forced their way in. '"
Er, except the actual words used, which are quoted in the reports! If the reports were incorrect, then you would have a point. However as every reporter seems to have heard the same words, you need to get over it.
Quote ="Eurob0y"As was proved in the court today. The bit from the reports you quoted, is just criminal damage.'"
Nothing was "proved" son, they pleaded guilty. Things are only proved if cases go to trial. What you don't understand is that what the prosecution says about the facts are just that - stated facts - unless the defence challenges the prosecution account. They didn't.
If you want a brief law lesson, then whilst criminal damage may well be caused to a door when breaking it down, and whilst the offence may, or may not, be charged, this makes no fscking difference to the fact that Reardon forced his way in.
If you want another one, then where a man is pleading guilty to a serious, imprisonable offence, then it is quite normal for lesser charges (such as criminal damage) not to be proceeded with. In this case, the most serious charges were the described assaults.
The court was told "[iReardon ....charged the door, breaking the frame and the lock[/i".
Who do you think told the court that, son? The tooth fairy? Santa?
I do accept, of course, that there are always going to be people who are so incredibly dense that they will argue breaking down a door and entering the property that way does not equal "forcing your way in", but they are the sort of retards that there is generally no point in trying to converse sensibly with.
You just point them to what the Judge in the actual Court said:-
Quote Judge Mr Fowler said Pryce went to the flat to help keep the peace and had not anticipated any violence.. but... should have left when Reardon forced open the door.'"
In your head, does this mean the judge concluded Reardon did NOT force open the door? Then you need a head check.
HTH.
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| He has been a very lucky lad, he should have received a much stiffer sentence.
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| I love the way that once again people are taking the moral highground over this especially someone with Ryan Bailey in their team!
It is done he has been sentenced if Saints want to punish him further than so be it but why random RL fans think they know better than a court of law is a mystery.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"I love the way that once again people are taking the moral highground over this especially someone with Ryan Bailey in their team!
It is done he has been sentenced if Saints want to punish him further than so be it but why random RL fans think they know better than a court of law is a mystery.'"
Because they do, OK?
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"I love the way that once again people are taking the moral highground over this especially someone with Ryan Bailey in their team!
It is done he has been sentenced if Saints want to punish him further than so be it but why random RL fans think they know better than a court of law is a mystery.'"
Exactly, hit the nail on the head.
LOCK IT!
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Jeez those saints board members are merciless. Pryce must be absolutely devastated!
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Jeez those saints board members are merciless. Pryce must be absolutely devastated!
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| wonder what he'll do for his hat-trick
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