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| Quote ="IR80"Where do you get this fanciful idea that Lenegan makes the rules for SL entry?'"
I don't know why you bother, he'll never answer.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"icon_lol.gif You've been reeled in yet again Wayne. TWP are disposing of their whole SL squad at this very moment. The question about then carrying on[u is about them carrying on in the championship or league, whichever one they get demoted to as a punishment for not completing this season.[/u
He got you!!'"
Reeled in by who exactly? If you hadn't dissected my post to suit your agenda you don't have anything to come back with, what I said which you well know is, that perhaps it might be better and less troublesome for the RFL if they came back in super league thus avoiding championship clubs falling out amongst themselves as to who got first dibs, which in all fairness to the RFL would be virtually impossible to decide without showing favouritism. Twp as you say are disposing of their whole super league squad, it doesn't take an email to you from Lenagan to tell you that as it's well documented in the press, unfortunately for you that MIGHT not stop them recruiting for next season with encouragement from the RFL, which I understand your point of view as it will leave you devoid of any reasonable excuse to pour out your usual diatribe of anti expansionism. So presumably you have heard first hand from Lenagan and I say this because you talk about him as though you are in day to day conversation with him that it's definite Twp will be demoted to the championship or league 1, as per I think your just blagging your way through as lets face it your not sure which league they're going into, oh nearly forgot, who is it whose got me? certainly not you cock, toast eh, you'd be out of your depth in a car park puddle ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="The Silent H"I don't know why you bother, he'll never answer.'"
true, I should just ignore the trolling twerp.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Toulouse don't run a player development system. Read the criteria
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I'm sure that you can email them your criteria, they are sure to be really interested.
Do you have a link to the AGREED criteria or, are we going on press cuttings and you tube clips (again).
If the Championship isn't going to be played, which looks highly unlikely, there are 2 candidates.
Either Toulouse, who are top of the Championship at present or, Fev, who were beaten finalists last season.
Anything else would be open to all sorts of questions and possible legal issues from clubs that believe that they had been "overlooked".
Voting a club into the league, even by an "independent" panel looks fraught.
Mind you, this is rugby league and the silver bullet will be sought, again.
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| Toulouse run a team in Elite 1. That is effectively a Reserves side and development of players.
More than what some English teams do, especially when you consider dual reg.
As they say though, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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| Quote ="IR80"true, I should just ignore the trolling twerp.'"
Your words.
Quote ="IR80"does disagreeing with someone make that individual a troll?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Your words.
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There's a fundamental difference when all someone posts is made up in their head, passed off as fact.
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| Let’s say Toronto keep their place for 2021. How are they going to field a team? Whose going to sign for them after what’s gone on?
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| Would GH be supportive of Fev in SL? It might prevent him from using them as Rhinos reserves.
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"Would GH be supportive of Fev in SL? It might prevent him from using them as Rhinos reserves.'"
I think you might find it works for both clubs.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Mr. Hetherington is calling for an independent panel to choose a club for promotion to Superleague 2021 to take the12th. place.
Criteria include Good finances, Good Stadium, Decent (paying) attendances, good commercial potential and player production system.....
Who will it be?'"
Should clearly be Fev. They fit all that criteria.
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| Quote ="little wayne69":29oelobwTwp as you say are disposing of their whole super league squad, unfortunately for you that MIGHT not stop them recruiting for next season with encouragement from the RFL, which I understand your point of view as it will leave you devoid of any reasonable excuse to pour out your usual diatribe of anti expansionism. '" :29oelobw
OK Wayne, here's the situation, Argyle is the sole owner of a club he pumped £18Million into.
With £18Million Wayne I would trust you and me would be equally capable of finding a ground, inventing a club (how about Mansfield ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) ) and buying up players to get to Superleague. Once there though it would be a different situation
That's what Argyle has found out so he's out. He's going. As Martyn Sadler said today in his Total RL Express & Rugby Leaguer :29oelobw[i:29oelobw"It seems unlikely that Argyle will be the owner of the woolpack for much longer"[/i:29oelobw:29oelobw
So if he's not there who is going to :29oelobw"Recruit for next season with encouragement from the RFL":29oelobw
Your mistake is to refer to TWP as a club which they are not. They are just a plaything the $Billionaire tossed aside once he got bored, and that my friend is NOT expansion...........
Expansion was clearly defined early on when Perez conceded to Dave Woods that expansion meant expanding the player pool, it meant expanding the TV revenues. TWP expanded nothing but travel costs.
:29oelobwAnd here's the bottom line, when the phoney TWP replaced the real club London Broncos Superleague contracted People completely forget if a so called expansion club doesn't expand the player base or the TV money once it gets into Superleague it only pushes a real club out.
This is why London must be given their SL place back.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Well if we are in joke mood I would go for Ottawa.
But your right that Leigh do not have the "player production" but they could sign up a reserves side.
This was what Lenegan asked of certain clubs who may harbour SL ambitions when it came to the new deal 2022. He wanted to see them run reserves and that included Bradford, Widnes, London and Newcastle. They all responded. I'd say it's logical that Superleague will be looking for a club not to fill in, but be full participants longer term so I'd put London favourites then Widnes...Bradford and Newcastle may have some way to go yet.
If SL would accept Leigh if they signed up a reserves side there's a chance.'"
There is a Tommy Sale Youth team which is local business funded, Leigh could *if D.B were willing & able* reach out to them & further fund that enterprise to become a full affiliate academy (though I am not sure if politics would get in the way).
London are the best bet if the prerequisite is mediocrity & sub Salford levels of attendance !
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| SBW, Kallum Watkins and Tom Olbison to Valley Parade or Sydney Roosters? Bradford to go 'up'?
COYB!
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| Quote ="Donnyman"OK Wayne, here's the situation, Argyle is the sole owner of a club he pumped £18Million into.
With £18Million Wayne I would trust you and me would be equally capable of finding a ground, inventing a club (how about Mansfield
) and buying up players to get to Superleague. Once there though it would be a different situation
So if he's not there who is going to "Recruit for next season with encouragement from the RFL"
This is why London must be given their SL place back.'"
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With £18Million Wayne I would trust you and me would be equally capable of finding a ground, inventing a club (how about Mansfield :lolicon_smile.gif and buying up players to get to Superleague. Once there though it would be a different situation. It already exists. Sherwood Wolf Hunt RLFC
Interesting. Brighter than you come across.
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| The whole Fev to replace Toronto next season wouldn’t really sit well. They were beaten in the final I get that, but what about the teams that Toronto knocked out along the way ?
To be honest I’m preparing myself for a massive fallout with the English game. TWP do not deserve their status next season in SL. But at the same time I can’t see a team being cherry picked to replace them.
So it’s either run with 11 teams or they retain their place. And I think it will be the latter.
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| But how will they field a team? Public knowledge know that players haven’t been payed on time and yet to be paid, why would any potential player want to sign for them?
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| I've always worked on the theory that I can sit at home for nowt, but then again I've never been that unlucky where work wasn't available, if we believe what we are told then all those unlucky players out of work might be that desperate they'll sign for anybody, besides that I'm sure if Twp are in super league or any other league for that matter, they will have had to give assurances to whichever governing body they're linked with.
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| There is no chance of a club being selected to replace Toronto next season, two divisions with an odd number of teams is a non starter. Toronto will be reinstated with a massive points deduction which will virtually ensure their relegation at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"I've always worked on the theory that I can sit at home for nowt, but then again I've never been that unlucky where work wasn't available, if we believe what we are told then all those unlucky players out of work might be that desperate they'll sign for anybody, besides that I'm sure if Twp are in super league or any other league for that matter, they will have had to give assurances to whichever governing body they're linked with.'"
Why it does not matter to Toronto even if they give assurances they gave that when they said they will get Canadaian players and a TV deal did they did they hell one answer dump them now
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| Quote ="reffy"There is no chance of a club being selected to replace Toronto next season, two divisions with an odd number of teams is a non starter. Toronto will be reinstated with a massive points deduction which will virtually ensure their relegation at the end of the season.'"
Thought about this scenario which is a strong possibility. But a total waste of time for everyone involved, 12 points or more of a deduction, I can’t see them bothering to start the season. Unless he throws another 5 million at it which I doubt he will
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| Quote ="reffy"There is no chance of a club being selected to replace Toronto next season, two divisions with an odd number of teams is a non starter. Toronto will be reinstated with a massive points deduction which will virtually ensure their relegation at the end of the season.'"
TWP don't need reinstating, they haven't been kicked out.
Go with the 12, no promotion or relegation for 3 years, expand to 16 teams in 2024, Tolouse, Ottowa, New York and one from Halifax/Bradford/Featherstone, get a long term strategy going. Franchising works if you do it properly and don't skirt around it.
Make a huge bid to get into the CWG as 7's in 2026.
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| Quote ="IR80"TWP don't need reinstating, they haven't been kicked out.
Go with the 12, no promotion or relegation for 3 years, expand to 16 teams in 2024, Tolouse, Ottowa, New York and one from Halifax/Bradford/Featherstone, get a long term strategy going. Franchising works if you do it properly and don't skirt around it.
Make a huge bid to get into the CWG as 7's in 2026.'"
They have effectively kicked themselves out. If they are in Super League next season it will set a precedent that any team marooned at the bottom could withdraw without penalty.
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| Quote ="IR80"TWP don't need reinstating, they haven't been kicked out.
Go with the 12, no promotion or relegation for 3 years, expand to 16 teams in 2024, Tolouse, Ottowa, New York and one from Halifax/Bradford/Featherstone, get a long term strategy going. Franchising works if you do it properly and don't skirt around it.
Make a huge bid to get into the CWG as 7's in 2026.'"
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) you kidding me new York hasn't got an owner when you people going to learn ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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