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| Best thing that happened to us was relegation, we were nowhere near good enough or ready as a club to play with the best in the country at the time - we were kept up 4 years on the trot by different reasons and no one really wanted to be there as we weren't enjoying it and weren't going to improve by being kept up.
We did improve when we brought Tony Smith in but we still needed to go down to regroup and come back when we as a club were ready.
That's probably what London needed when the licensing came in - time to start from scratch if you like and build a club back up from a solid foundation.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Someone at the RFL needs to sit down with Lenegan and tell him its OK to have an interest in two clubs.'"
doubtful he's be interested now....fat nige needs to pester more people in first class airport lounges
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| Quote ="gutterfax"doubtful he's be interested now....fat nige needs to pester more people in first class airport lounges
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By the size of him, he probabley does.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"By the size of him, he probabley does.'"
I meant millionaires, not waitresses
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| As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
Wow.
Daddy I want a pony and i want it now!!!
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| Quote ="RLBandit"From She Who Must Be Obeyed .... "its bad enough watching every &@&#%*^ game, but don't tell me you're watching reserve team games too!"'"
Brilliant! (and fair play to your better half for paying enough attention, mine wouldn't look up from her kindle)
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
I think they should kidnap people for a day and make them attend games whilst blackmailing them that if they don't look happy they will shoot their family pets.
Bound to get the attendences up.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Wow.
Daddy I want a pony and i want it now!!!'"
To give you a little background here, the RFL cut off 50% of our yearly investment income when they told IL he couldn't have interests in 2 clubs and then did absolutely nothing to help us find another investor. The also continued to refuse to assist in out community costs, even though at the time we were solely responsible for the games promotion in London, but instead, set up their own office and "piggy-backed" on our work. Furthermore, they blatantly refuse to offer any additional assistance even though the cost of renting property/living in London can be up to 4 times that in the heartlands.....we can't afford the standard of players other teams can, even though DH spends to the cap.
London will fold at the end of 2014 (if not before) unless a new investor is found to share the burden that DH has carried since 2008 (9 million by the end of this season) and the work and investment carried out by the club over 17 years of SL will pretty much disappear.......all because the RFL refused to let a RL mad investor keep his stake in our club and help build the business side up......David Hughes is a saint, but he is not a businessman...he is a broker....he has money, but very little experience of running a day to day Business...Lenegan would have given us that...the RFL cut our throats in 2006/7.........
..so yep, demands for the RFL to assist us may seem a little "childish" to you, but we only want the same level off assistance doled out to 2 Heartland Clubs BEFORE WE GO BUST.....not afterwards.
London dropping out of SL will have those national sponsors kicking down the door even more than they are now
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| Quote ="gutterfax":
..so yep, demands for the RFL to assist us may seem a little "childish" to you, but we only want the same level off assistance doled out to 2 Heartland Clubs BEFORE WE GO BUST.....not afterwards.
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Are you sure this is what you'd want GF ? , seriously you want their ' marketing expertise ' ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Are you sure this is what you'd want GF ? , seriously you want their ' marketing expertise ' ?'"
only if we want to fold at the end of this season
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| Quote ="gutterfax"only if we want to fold at the end of this season
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Just hope they dont make a statement declaring
" We want London to be a Vibrant club worth supporting in their own right "
Its like the footy managers ' vote of confidence '
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
Well said.
If Nigel Wood can get on his high horse and start lecturing about how London must improve and all that, he should start backing up his sizeable presence and make sure that London is on a level playing field to the rest of the teams, which it most definitely isn't due to the unique challenges London brings. If the RFL wants a London presence then the RFL has to start investing in it instead of just hanging it out to dry.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well said.
If Nigel Wood can get on his high horse and start lecturing about how London must improve and all that, he should start backing up his sizeable presence and make sure that London is on a level playing field to the rest of the teams, which it most definitely isn't due to the unique challenges London brings. If the RFL wants a London presence then the RFL has to start investing in it instead of just hanging it out to dry.'"
The problem is that the RFL want a London club but don't have the money to invest in them.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"The problem is that the RFL want a London club but don't have the money to invest in them.'"
...they did have some money but they've spent that elsewhere......on an iconic ground
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| Surely thats a pittance to what london need
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| Surely its criminal that a majority of the public within a 2 mile radius of the ground are not aware when the Bronocs are playing a home game, whom they are playing and the KO time.
Better marketing will produce bigger grounds which = more money for the club which = being able to afford better players which would bring some succees to the the club which = bigger crowds. Its all a knock on affect in my opinion and it should start with better match day marketing.
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"Surely its criminal that a majority of the public within a 2 mile radius of the ground are not aware when the Bronocs are playing a home game, whom they are playing and the KO time.
Better marketing will produce bigger grounds which = more money for the club which = being able to afford better players which would bring some succees to the the club which = bigger crowds. Its all a knock on affect in my opinion and it should start with better match day marketing.'"
I have reported you to the moderators for hacking my account
I have said this to the club, the owners, a succession of CEO's and employees and The RFL for the last 11 years........only Ian Lenegan and the RFL agreed with me.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...they did have some money but they've spent that elsewhere......on an iconic ground'"
But what a ground! Sometimes I just drive over there, not on a match day, but just my own personal stadium tour to soak up the architecture. Sir Norman Foster, eat your heart out. And the atmosphere...the haunting way it turns the sound of 10000 people into the sound of just 10 has only ever been matched by Don Valley, that legendary venue. Whatever else you think of the RFL, let's shower them with gratitude for keeping Odsal. Why, I'd go so far as to say its a "stadium worth going to in its own right"
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| Quote ="RLBandit"But what a ground! Sometimes I just drive over there, not on a match day, but just my own personal stadium tour to soak up the architecture. Sir Norman Foster, eat your heart out. And the atmosphere...the haunting way it turns the sound of 10000 people into the sound of just 10 has only ever been matched by Don Valley, that legendary venue. Whatever else you think of the RFL, let's shower them with gratitude for keeping Odsal. Why, I'd go so far as to say its a "stadium worth going to in its own right"'"
worth every single penny
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I have reported you to the moderators for hacking my account
I have said this to the club, the owners, a succession of CEO's and employees and The RFL for the last 11 years........only Ian Lenegan and the RFL agreed with me.'"
Its a mystery to me why this hasn't been done at the Stoop to my knowledge since it worked at Griffin park. I'm sure even now the Broncos could find volunteers to leaflet homes and business's within a 2 mile radius of the ground, which is more than is being done now. They could also use the players to do the same thing as well.
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| Whilst not 100% to blame for the state of the London SL club...this is an accurate timeline;
Gus's Timeline...
03-09-10 / 2010 finish 13th with a Seasons average of 3,380.
14-01-11 / Gus Mackay Joins as CEO
20-02-11 / 1,766 witness the seasons opener v Crusaders a record lowest attendance for the club in SL
22-06-11 / Club announce they are investigating a possible re-brand
10-09-11 / 3,456 Watch the loss to St Helens, securing 12th spot ..average 3,124 down 7.5%
01-11-11 / Club announce a rebrand back to the Broncos name
19-01-12 / Season Tickets sent out to 859 people.
24-01-12 / Club dispatches Replica s with the promise you can have the sponsor added later…when they get one
27-01-12 / Club Launch new Website nearly 3 full months after the re-brand
04-02-12 / 4,924 witness the first game as the London Broncos..the team has no shirt sponsor
17-05-12 / After only 2 league wins all season and declining crowds the club announce a review.
09-06-12 / 2,117 watch the team achieve their third win of the season to move off the foot of the table.
17-07-12 / The Club announce a temporary sponsorship arrangement with a local building supplies store.
18-07-12 / The Club, sitting bottom of the league, announce the return of Tony Rea.
18-08-12 / The Sun report the club is moving to Gillingham, The CEO does nothing on Live TV to dispell this rumour
18-08-12 / CEO states that is may be November before the new coach is anounced
21-08-12 / Three days later, Tone Rea is announced as the new head coach.
08-09-12 / 2,525 watch the Broncos win their last game of the season, finishing in 12th position with the lowest ever average for a season…2,808, 11% down on last year and 17% down in total since 2010
08-09-12 / No official announcements are made at the end of seasons awards……the home ground and info on 2013 ST's are still a mystery
19-09-12 / Club announce staying at the stoop for 2013
15-01-13 / Gus announces that London will leave the stoop at the end of 2013...no announcement on ST numbers pointing to a further decline.
09-03013 / Bottom of the table with an average of 2,193, over 35% less fans and all the CEO can do is text NZ to ask me to stop picking on him....
....Something has to change at the club or they may as well just give up now.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Whilst not 100% to blame for the state of the London SL club...this is an accurate timeline;
Gus's Timeline...
03-09-10 / 2010 finish 13th with a Seasons average of 3,380.
14-01-11 / Gus Mackay Joins as CEO
20-02-11 / 1,766 witness the seasons opener v Crusaders a record lowest attendance for the club in SL
22-06-11 / Club announce they are investigating a possible re-brand
10-09-11 / 3,456 Watch the loss to St Helens, securing 12th spot ..average 3,124 down 7.5%
01-11-11 / Club announce a rebrand back to the Broncos name
19-01-12 / Season Tickets sent out to 859 people.
24-01-12 / Club dispatches Replica s with the promise you can have the sponsor added later…when they get one
27-01-12 / Club Launch new Website nearly 3 full months after the re-brand
04-02-12 / 4,924 witness the first game as the London Broncos..the team has no shirt sponsor
17-05-12 / After only 2 league wins all season and declining crowds the club announce a review.
09-06-12 / 2,117 watch the team achieve their third win of the season to move off the foot of the table.
17-07-12 / The Club announce a temporary sponsorship arrangement with a local building supplies store.
18-07-12 / The Club, sitting bottom of the league, announce the return of Tony Rea.
18-08-12 / The Sun report the club is moving to Gillingham, The CEO does nothing on Live TV to dispell this rumour
18-08-12 / CEO states that is may be November before the new coach is anounced
21-08-12 / Three days later, Tone Rea is announced as the new head coach.
08-09-12 / 2,525 watch the Broncos win their last game of the season, finishing in 12th position with the lowest ever average for a season…2,808, 11% down on last year and 17% down in total since 2010
08-09-12 / No official announcements are made at the end of seasons awards……the home ground and info on 2013 ST's are still a mystery
19-09-12 / Club announce staying at the stoop for 2013
15-01-13 / Gus announces that London will leave the stoop at the end of 2013...no announcement on ST numbers pointing to a further decline.
09-03013 / Bottom of the table with an average of 2,193, over 35% less fans and all the CEO can do is text NZ to ask me to stop picking on him....
....Something has to change at the club or they may as well just give up now.'"
Its clear from you have have just posted that Gus is out of the depth at this level. I still can't my head around this lack of match day marketing. How can you expect to get new fans and bigger crowds to the club if a majority of people in the area are not aware of when homes games are taking place, against who and the KO time
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"How can you expect to get new fans and bigger crowds to the club if a majority of people in the area are not aware of when homes games are taking place, against who and the KO time
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Take that a step further - the majority of people in the area don't know London Broncos even exist. They don't know professional RL is played in the capital let alone what sport the Broncos play in.
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| It's funny, I've just been reading an article by Harry Edgar in the No.26/august 1984 edition of Open Rugby, it is almost a verse for verse representation of what is happening now with London as it was back then to Fulham.
Poor support from the RFL, crap running of the club and hardy loyal London fans seeing it out to the bitter end....
If anyone wants a scan I'll forward it on
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